Obi-Wan and Darth Maul vs. Count Dooku

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Originally posted by Not_a_sock
Lol, Dooku's pierced his guard many a time with ease.

Makashi is perfectly suited to take down Soresu.

He did that to a defensive master, just imagine how easily he'd chop poor Maul 🙁

Also, RotS Obi > AotC Obi, Dooku never pierced the former with pure saber skills.

Seeing you in SWVF is just weird for some reason.

Originally posted by Greysentinel365
According to Chee no.

Chee didn’t confirm that.

He just stated Maul was still pretty powerful or something.

But it’s pretty obvious that neither Maul or Vader we’re progressing at the same rate post getting mutilated.

Originally posted by Not_a_sock
Since when was Kenobi a substantially better duelist than Maul?
I'm not going to speculate on the gap, but given that TCW Kenobi was the one getting in the hits and doing the most damage physically in their duels, I see no reason to think that edge dissapeared as off ROTS.

Originally posted by Greysentinel365
According to Chee no.

That is not what chee said. Chee didn't say anything regarding potential. What Chee said was that their wasn't a loss in actualized power.

^ And even that was after a massive rage boost by both.

Originally posted by AncientPower
He caught Kenobi off-guard with the Force, he himself concedes that he'd never be able to penetrate his Soresu.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Yes, in a duel Dooku gets stonewalled by Kenobi. In the Force, Dooku can only incapacitate him by doing essentially what would take out anyone. Catching him off-guard.

In other words, Dooku was certainly lucky.

Man, you really believe in what you just written? Kenobi's fanboy or Dooku's hater?
Dooku was unable to penetrate Kenobi's Soresu, was a lucky that he was even able to succesfuly use the Force against him. Skywalker's Djem So is too strong for Dooku, even without DS boost. And more, and more BS, ye?

In a booku (which should't be conisder as a canon, since the fight shown there was totaly different than that one from the movie.
That's really funny, in the movie, Dooku outmanuvered both, Anakin and Obi-Wan, created the openings, kicked Skywalker away and Force choked Kenobi. But no! He coulnd't ! how?! Lucky!
Then, we have a book, where Kenobi was deciribed as the master of Soresu. Your logic? Dooku couln't penetrate that! He couldn't! How?! In a movie, he was unable! And now, movie matters and the fact, that exhausted and hard-pressed by Skywalker Dooku was able to penetrate Kenobi's defense with a simple kick, and superior speed doesn't matter? He did that twice, btw. I na Clone Wars too. And what? LUCKY! Kenobi was in disadvantage, because Dooku's superior was helping him!.

Dooku from ROTS/AOTC/Oba Diah takes clear majority, perhaps even 10/10. Kenobi will have an inferior syngergy with Maul, and Maul is not as strong as Anakin.

lul

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
lul

Your post makes no sense.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Dooku just does what he was doing at the beginning of the RotS duel to one of them, and then the other isn't winning one on one.

Spot on.

all out Dooku beats em, he was pretty solidly handling Anakin and ObiWan at the same time no reason to think the same wouldn't happen here

Yes everyone always brings up Dooku’s fuels against Anakin and Obi-Wan, as if thats the only evidence needed.

What about his duel against Ventress and Savage, or his duel against Ventress and Vos, or just against Vos?

Maul is far more dangerous than Savage, and Kenobi far more dangerous than Ventress. And either are on par with Vos.

ok well if youre gonna bring in Clone Wars then you cant discount Dooku fighting off the Nightsister assassins while drugged, or how he schooled Obi and Ani on Oba Diah with a brigade of Pikes also joining in against him as well.

Fact is Tyranus is a beast and hes ALWAYS had Obi Wans number, there hasn't been an encounter between the two that he hasn't decisively dominated Kenobi; Maul will help out a bit but he doesn't have any synergy with Obi Wan and hes still an inferior swordsman to Dooku as well seeing as how he got beat by Kenobi with Savage in the fight as well...

Dooku, probably. If he can remove Obi-Wan he then has a pretty good fight with Maul which he wins.

Yeah, it really depends on how well and for how long Dooku can take out one of these two. It's an even split for me; I can see Maul and Obi keeping the pressure up so that he doesn't take one out of the game for too long, if at all, and then they whittle him down.

Obi Wan leads the team to a grueling win.

Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
Obi Wan leads the team to a grueling win.
It'll be hard to do that while he's buried underneath a walkway.

Originally posted by ILS
It'll be hard to do that while he's buried underneath a walkway.

I'd like to set the record straight for him in these aspects, but a lengthy argument spanning countless large posts, I don't have time for right now. Got to get my grades back to the top and then I'll have some fun.

👆

I'm all for it and it being presented concisely.