1st of all, Mace gets eaten by Nihillus. The poor old negro can't protect himself from the Dark Reaper. He doesn't know how to resist drain, meaning he has no business facing Nihilus. On top of this, the functionality of Vaapad is to syphon the energy projected from the opponent, which isn't a reliable option against someone who's favoured skill is to syphon your energy first. And it's probably the only reason Mace could contend with Palpatine. Not due to his personal power.
2nd of all, a list based on Force power, not duelling (these are always fun) :
Luke
Sheev
Yoda
Plagueis
Valkorion
Nihilus
Anakin
Revan
Exar Kun
Vader
Tenebrous
Starkillers
Mace
Maybe(?) Nadd
Originally posted by An_Sock
1st of all, Mace gets eaten by Nihillus. The poor old negro can't protect himself from the Dark Reaper. He doesn't know how to resist drain, meaning he has no business facing Nihilus. On top of this, the functionality of Vaapad is to syphon the energy projected from the opponent, which isn't a reliable option against someone who's favoured skill is to syphon your energy first. And it's probably the only reason Mace could contend with Palpatine. Not due to his personal power.
I agree Mace Windu have nothing on Palpatine. However, you greatly underestimate true capabilities of Mace Windu. Darth Nihilus can siphon energy but Mace Windu can siphon it back with Vaapad. It would create endless loop until Mace Windu cuts Darth Nihilus down with superior dueling skills.
Windu requires time to get Vaapad up and running. Nihilus would just drain him then and there. Traya, someone weaker than Nihilus using a weaker version of the power drain ****ed three Jedi Masters after ragdoling them.
I also don't see Windu matching the feat of pulling a military class ship out of the orbit of Malachor 5.
Originally posted by samappo
Windu requires time to get Vaapad up and running. Nihilus would just drain him then and there.
Vaapad is a lightsaber form. Mace Windu have swinged his lightsaber very quickly. Darth Nihilus would have no time to drain him.
Traya, someone weaker than Nihilus using a weaker version of the power drain ****ed three Jedi Masters after ragdoling them.
You think those Jedi are on level of Mace Windu? Those Jedi were so weak three year olds with waterguns could have defeated them. Darth Traya instantly killed them proving how weak they were.
I also don't see Windu matching the feat of pulling a military class ship out of the orbit of Malachor 5.
Mace Windu have excellent showings of Telekinesis. See for yourself:
As they cleared the crest of the pass, Mace used the Force to lift himself up so that he could stand on the saddle facing forward, his hands on Nick's back, leaning to see past his shoulder.
From (Star Wars: Shatterpoint)
Darth Nihilus have ragdolled capital ship but Mace Windu have ragdolled himself. You think Darth Nihilus can ragdoll Mace Windu? I think not.
Originally posted by Azronger
I'm interested in your list of all Dooku-level characters.
Valkorion
Banite Sith (all)
Dread Masters (all)
The Exiles (all)
Lord Nyax
Exar Kun
Vaylin
Arcann
Thexan
Senya
Darth Marr
Darth Jadus
Darth Nihilus
Darth Traya
Darth Thanaton
Darth Nox
Tulak Hord
Marka Ragnos
Naga Sadow
Darth Vader
Exal Kressh
Emperor's Wrath
Emperor's Wrath II
Darth Nyriss
Darth Nihilus
Darth Malak
Lord Fulminiss
Darth Malgus
Lord Draahg
Darth Baras
Thana Vesh
Revan
Freedon Nadd
Darth Krayt
More...
Count Dooku has many peers in strength, if not in dueling. I do regard Count Dooku among the very best in dueling.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
In no specific order:Valkorion
Banite Sith (all)
Dread Masters (all)
The Exiles (all)
Lord Nyax
Exar Kun
Vaylin
Arcann
Thexan
Senya
Darth Marr
Darth Jadus
Darth Nihilus
Darth Traya
Darth Thanaton
Darth Nox
Tulak Hord
Marka Ragnos
Naga Sadow
Darth Vader
Exal Kressh
Emperor's Wrath
Emperor's Wrath II
Darth Nyriss
Darth Nihilus
Darth Malak
Lord Fulminiss
Darth Malgus
Lord Draahg
Darth Baras
Thana Vesh
Revan
Freedon Nadd
Darth KraytMore...
Count Dooku has many peers in strength, if not in dueling. I do regard Count Dooku among the very best in dueling.
You concede that Valkorion is Dooku level? 👆