Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Notice how he is also still dismissing that the Butcher performed multiple blocks in a row, which would require multiple arm movements and adjustments. Not just moving a blade in front of a bullet once.
Not to mention a thrown pellet would be moving hundreds of times slower than a bullet. Which would make my challenge the perfect way to test if his theory is accurate.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Notice how he is also still dismissing that the Butcher performed multiple blocks in a row, which would require multiple arm movements and adjustments. Not just moving a blade in front of a bullet once.
If the bullets are moving in slow motion then it would take a very long time between each successive bullet. You would block one and then wait for 1 minute and then block another. You are confusing our perception of the bullets as Butcher's and Ozy's.
Imagine that a meat cleaver already up and in front of you ready to block. A bullet comes at you slowly. All you must do is line the blade up with the path.
Now imagine from a much closer distance you are with your hands at your sides. You see a bullet come out at you slowly. You have to attempt to catch it.
The latter is harder because of the closer distance, hands are down and not up, and catching requires multiple tasks with the arm, hand and fingers.
Originally posted by DreampantherCommon sense sometimes sound like something idiotic to an idiot.
Originally posted by Silent MasterA thrown bullet would be moving 10-15 times slower than a fired bullet. To the eyes of these characters, a bullet is moving slower than a thrown bullet.
Not to mention a thrown pellet would be moving hundreds of times slower than a bullet. Which would make my challenge the perfect way to test if his theory is accurate.
Originally posted by h1a8
A thrown bullet would be moving 10-15 times slower than a fired bullet. To the eyes of these characters, a bullet is moving
slower than a thrown bullet.
Wrong. It is entirely possible to throw a pellet at only a few mph, thus it would be moving at less than 1/100th the speed of a bullet. in essence slow-mo.
So accept my challenge.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Wrong. It is entirely possible to throw a pellet at only a few mph, thus it would be moving at less than 1/100th the speed of a bullet. in essence slow-mo.So accept my challenge.
So with a cleaver in front of you it is easy to hit a slow motion bullet than to catch it with your hands started at your sides.
Originally posted by h1a8
Then I'm afraid you lack common sense.You are ignoring that I stated the bullet is moving in slow motion.
Originally posted by h1a8
If the bullets are moving in slow motion then it would take a very long time between each successive bullet. You would block one and then wait for 1 minute and then block another. You are confusing our perception of the bullets as Butcher's and Ozy's.Imagine that a meat cleaver already up and in front of you ready to block. A bullet comes at you slowly. All you must do is line the blade up with the path.
Now imagine from a much closer distance you are with your hands at your sides. You see a bullet come out at you slowly. You have to attempt to catch it.
The latter is harder because of the closer distance, hands are down and not up, and catching requires multiple tasks with the arm, hand and fingers.
Common sense sometimes sound like something idiotic to an idiot.
A thrown bullet would be moving 10-15 times slower than a fired bullet. To the eyes of these characters, a bullet is moving slower than a thrown bullet.
Common sense? COMMON SENSE? 😱 😂 😆
Dear Baka,
the bullets are not moving in slow motion, as you repeatedly stated. If the bullets moved in slow motion I could catch them. My dog could catch them. My mother could catch them, and she has arthritis.
The bullets only appear to be moving in slow motion to the butcher, because adrenaline to his brain slows his perception of his surroundings and grants him superhuman strength and speed.
Do you understand the difference? Do you have any common sense? Do you even know what common sense means?
Second, no, it is not more difficult to catch a small object than it is to repeatedly slice said object in half with a butcher's blade. Your hand is gigantic compared to the edge of a blade and you only have to do it once, while if you hold the blade you have to do it repeatedly with only a tiny surface that can touch the bullet.
Go, on try it yourself. Ask a friend, if you have any, to throw a small pebble at you. If you don't have any friends just ask everybody you know, I'm sure you will find somebody who can't wait to throw rocks at you.
Then, after you've caught one pebble, ask them to throw multiple pebbles at you, one after another, without stopping, while you try to slice them out of the air with a knife.
Third, I'm going to leave you with this message: Just substitute a-hole with idiot.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
Common sense? COMMON SENSE? 😱 😂 😆Dear Baka,
the bullets are not moving in slow motion, as you repeatedly stated. If the bullets moved in slow motion I could catch them. My dog could catch them. My mother could catch them, and she has arthritis.
The bullets only [B]appear
to be moving in slow motion to the butcher, because adrenaline to his brain slows his perception of his surroundings and grants him superhuman strength and speed.Do you understand the difference? Do you have any common sense? Do you even know what common sense means?
Second, no, it is not more difficult to catch a small object than it is to repeatedly slice said object in half with a butcher's blade. Your hand is gigantic compared to the edge of a blade and you only have to do it once, while if you hold the blade you have to do it repeatedly with only a tiny surface that can touch the bullet.
Go, on try it yourself. Ask a friend, if you have any, to throw a small pebble at you. If you don't have any friends just ask everybody you know, I'm sure you will find somebody who can't wait to throw rocks at you.
Then, after you've caught one pebble, ask them to throw multiple pebbles at you, one after another, without stopping, while you try to slice them out of the air with a knife.
Third, I'm going to leave you with this message: Just substitute a-hole with idiot.
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There are three factors here for the Butcher.
The bullet moving slower than a thrown projectille,
the cleavers being already in front of you ready to block,
and him knocking the bullet out of the air (butcher didn’t slice it).
The factors for Ozy are
Closer distance than Butcher
Bullet moving slower than a thrown projectile
Hands at his side after the firing of the bullet
And
The multiple actions of the arm, hands , and fingers to catch.
The latter is harder to do.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Size of a hand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> edge of a blade. Catching something with your hand is far easier than hitting it with the edge of a blade. Even if you have to move your hand several times further.
If the cleaver is right in front of your face In the path of the slow motion bullet and the distance is larger then it is easier. I agree that it is harder than catching if you had the cleaver down at your side at the time of the firing and the distance was equal or lesse . But the cleaver being already there on the path (only a minor adjustment needed) at a longer distance can’t be harder. Plus it is not proven that Butcher hit the bullet with the blade (it could had been with the side). I could be wrong though.
Originally posted by Silent MasterSo you saying that if a slow motion bullet traveled toward you with your cleaver right in the path that it would be harder to line the blade up with bullet? Remember the blade being thin isn't the same as the object being thin.
The thinness of the blade more than makes up the distance it needed to be moved.
Basically, you can argue that Butchers feat was more skillful (debatable) but you can't argue that Ozy had to be a lot faster to perform his feat.
Originally posted by KingD19Wrong. Ozy was much closer. About 7-12ft away. Butcher was about 15-20 ft away.
Butcher was far closer to Wesley than Ozy was to Spectre. He ran up to his face while firing multiple shots. Whereas Spectre took a while to aim, did a quip, then fired from like 15-20 feet away.
The cleaver was already in front ready. Ozy hands were at his side.
Ozy hand to moved a larger distance than Butchers hand. And Ozy had less time to react.
Again, it's obvious that the Butcher's feat is far more impressive than Ozy's. if you disagree we can BZ it. YouTube video
Originally posted by Silent MasterIt's debatable. What's not debatable is that Ozy had to be faster to perform his feat.
Again, it's obvious that the Butcher's feat is far more impressive than Ozy's. if you disagree we can BZ it. YouTube video