Originally posted by Darth ThorYour opinion doesn't matter. It matters what's better not more original. ANH was heavily influenced by other films as we found out but due to your ignorance that doesn't somehow matter. You try to change the subject because you are an emotional guy who didn't care for the film or the villains. That's your right to favor the Ot but it's mine to greatly favor the NT as the films are much better in quality, characters, acting, etc. to the Ot's IMO.
I’ve yet to see a good justification for TFA so shamelessly imitating ANH tbh. And that’s half of the current NT.NT loses by default.
Originally posted by Darth ThorI have never cared for what's popular or what others think. I care about what I think. Also TFA made far more money than any other Star Wars film, kiddo. NT all day every day. Let the past die.
Actually looking at the votes it seems it’s your opinion that doesn’t really matter.Irony 101.
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Adjusted for inflation, ANH outdid TFA by almost a billion, and unlike TFA, it didn't have the tremendous hype factor of an expected SW film leading to its release in cinema, on top of a budget that was six to seven times smaller.
You can have your whatever opinion you want on the movies, but ANH is by far the greater cinematic success story by the numbers. That's an objective and indisputable fact. It's also the one that's been remembered as a classic in film history and will almost certainly stay that way.
Now, I find ANH a bit overrated myself and might actually prefer RotS to it (though I still see its merits as a film), but ESB and RotJ are too good. OT wins for me. RotS is dragged down by AotC and TPM and the ST, while possibly being well-constructed films in independent terms, I've found to be rather appalling as SW adventures. Terrible lorebuilding as well; the Prequels might've been best at that. Music is good but forgettable, not at all comparable to the PT or OT.
Originally posted by SunRazerBy the numbers of the dollars it isn't close. TFA made for more money. Now if you want to talk tickets sold that's an argument but I'm talking about ehich films the box office has in its top three. It isn't ANH.
Adjusted for inflation, ANH outdid TFA by almost a billion, and unlike TFA, it didn't have the tremendous hype factor of an expected SW film leading to its release in cinema, on top of a budget that was six to seven times smaller.You can have your whatever opinion you want on the movies, but ANH is by far the greater cinematic success story by the numbers. That's an objective and indisputable fact. It's also the one that's been remembered as a classic in film history and will almost certainly stay that way.
Now, I find ANH a bit overrated myself and might actually prefer RotS to it (though I still see its merits as a film), but ESB and RotJ are too good. OT wins for me. RotS is dragged down by AotC and TPM and the ST, while possibly being well-constructed films in independent terms, I've found to be rather appalling as SW adventures. Terrible lorebuilding as well; the Prequels might've been best at that. Music is good but forgettable, not at all comparable to the PT or OT.
No one says gone with the wind when it's sold a shit load of tickets when they discuss the top five box office films of all time. It's avatar, titantic, and TFA iirc. Not looking it up because I'm a ****ing badass.
Originally posted by quanchi112
By the numbers of the dollars it isn't close. TFA made for more money. Now if you want to talk tickets sold that's an argument but I'm talking about ehich films the box office has in its top three. It isn't ANH.
You obviously don't have a grasp of basic economics, because inflation means that the value of money changes over time and therefore box office numbers 40 years apart can't be treated equally. 😂
Adjusting for inflation is the more accurate way of comparing which movie is bigger, and because each dollar was worth more back in 1977, ANH made more money by far (especially because its budget was so much smaller). It isn't close. Perform an R.O.I. calculation and ANH blows TFA out of the water. And yes, tickets sold is a similar indication.
If TFA didn't beat ANH in terms of unadjusted gross, that'd be ****ing embarrassing. It's bloody 40 years down the line, lol. So that's hardly a feat, as almost any major film these days would do that.
See, a truly huge film like Avatar still manages to top ANH when it's adjusted for inflation. So you don't need to whinge or whine; the adjusted system is actually fair and accurately conveys how big a movie is. The unadjusted values are basically a circlejerk for modern movies as all old ones are instantly thrown out the window due to inflation.
What you said before was:
Also TFA made far more money than any other Star Wars film, kiddo.
In unadjusted terms, that's to be expected because TFA is far more recent than the other two trilogies and has more hype than TLJ and presumably Ep IX. So nobody cares about that.
ANH made more money in today's dollars. You can't use 2015 dollars for TFA and 1977 dollars for ANH. 😆
No one says gone with the wind when it's sold a shit load of tickets when they discuss the top five box office films of all time. It's avatar, titantic, and TFA iirc.
Actually, Gone with the Wind is widely renowned as the highest grossing film of all time by some distance, because adjusting for inflation is the more accurate way of comparing films' grosses from different eras. The fact that the unadjusted lists are also published quite widely doesn't change that. Those are good for a purely modern perspective. If you want to see the whole picture, then you need to adjust for inflation.
Not looking it up because I'm a ****ing badass.
No, because you're in denial. If something's good for the ST, it becomes a sex toy. If something's good for the OT, well **** that, amirite? The entire point of this thread was for you to attack OT fans and wank the ST.