Originally posted by SunRazer
Who's the villain going to be then? Hux? 😂Snoke coming back would be bad as it would devalue the entire point of his death scene in TLJ. It's kind of dumb either way.
I mean Hux is the only one we know that is still alive, soo....maybe? But then Hux hasn't really given any good vibes to be a good antagonist given his personality, the opening scene in TLJ didn't help any with that.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
I mean Hux is the only one we know, soo....maybe? But then Hux hasn't really given any good vibes to be a good antagonist given his personality, the opening scene in TLJ didn't help any with that.
Hux was comic relief in TLJ. Never once did he give off the vibe of being appropriate for a main villain. It would certainly be a jarring transition. And he'd still be a joke because the protagonists could just ragdoll him.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Hux was comic relief on TLJ. Never once did he give off the vibe of being appropriate for a main villain. It would certainly be a jarring transition. And he'd still be a joke because the protagonists could just ragdoll him.
I mean hands are changing back to Abrams for Episode 9, so who really knows at this point.
Kylo could be the main antagonist sure, but these past 2 movies he seemed more like a conflicted/confused person rather than someone who is suppose to be the main bad dude.
Originally posted by SunRazer
You obviously don't have a grasp of basic economics, because inflation means that the value of money changes over time and therefore box office numbers 40 years apart can't be treated equally. 😂
When you hear people talk about the top ten this is the list you mainly hear from which was my point.
Hey, kid I know that unadjusted what sold more tickets hence my comments. I know inflation cheapens or devalues the dollar. My point was when unadjusted TFA is in the top three not ANH.
Also just stop with the nonsense because at the time ANH was something that came at the right time and took the nation by storm which is harder to do I today's time given the MCU, dceu, the Potter films, the Lotr films or if you don't get my point by now it's simple. Epic fantasy and Sci Fi films are much more rampant and competitive for your dollar than say back in the late seventies.
TFA was a behemoth at the box office and acting like it's embarrassing is well ignorant to say the least.
Avatar is an insanely lucrative film which has the China market downpat but can it replicate its initial success or come close to it. I doubt it but we will find out in a few years time. TFA was a massive success as well though and don't try to pretend otherwise. We are talking about these films and comparing them to the entire history of cinematic box office so they are all heavyweights in their own right.Adjusting for inflation is the more accurate way of comparing which movie is bigger, and because each dollar was worth more back in 1977, ANH made more money by far (especially because its budget was so much smaller). It isn't close. Perform an R.O.I. calculation and ANH blows TFA out of the water. And yes, tickets sold is a similar indication.
If TFA didn't beat ANH in terms of unadjusted gross, that'd be ****ing embarrassing. It's bloody 40 years down the line, lol. So that's hardly a feat, as almost any major film these days would do that.
See, a truly huge film like Avatar still manages to top ANH when it's adjusted for inflation. So you don't need to whinge or whine; the adjusted system is actually fair and accurately conveys how big a movie is. The unadjusted values are basically a circlejerk for modern movies as all old ones are instantly thrown out the window due to inflation.
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When doing an unadjusted top ten you most certainly can do hence why we see lists doing it all the time. I explained this but you just kept rambling on anyways repeating yourself.What you said before was:
In unadjusted terms, that's to be expected because TFA is far more recent than the other two trilogies and has more hype than TLJ and presumably Ep IX. So nobody cares about that.
ANH made more money in today's dollars. You can't use 2015 dollars for TFA and 1977 dollars for ANH. 😆
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I know with tickets sold Gone with the Wind is up there but I don't argue that unless I say tickets sold or adjust for inflation.Actually, Gone with the Wind is widely renowned as the highest grossing film of all time by some distance, because adjusting for inflation is the more accurate way of comparing films' grosses from different eras. The fact that the unadjusted lists are also published quite widely doesn't change that. Those are good for a purely modern perspective. If you want to see the whole picture, then you need to adjust for inflation.
No, because you're in denial. If something's good for the ST, it becomes a sex toy. If something's good for the OT, well **** that, amirite? The entire point of this thread was for you to attack OT fans and wank the ST. [/B]
I was right about the top three unadjusted. I created the thread to see how many Ot cucks were on this forum. I figured it was very high. Beni wanted the op rescinded and for us to freely attack each other. I granted the wish. If that's to harsh for you maybe kmc isn't for you.
Just for future reference when I make a point to cite an unadjusted list don't go on a rant complaining about it since my statement was accurate.
Don't be a snowflake.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
I mean hands are changing back to Abrams for Episode 9, so who really knows at this point.Kylo could be the main antagonist sure, but these past 2 movies he seemed more like a conflicted/confused person rather than someone who is suppose to be the main bad dude.
I meant Kylo being the main antagonist for nine, naturally.
Originally posted by quanchi112When you hear people talk about the top ten this is the list you mainly hear from which was my point.
Hey, kid I know that unadjusted what sold more tickets hence my comments. I know inflation cheapens or devalues the dollar. My point was when unadjusted TFA is in the top three not ANH.
Your point was that TFA made more money than ANH; that's what I responded to. And nobody cares that it made more in unadjusted terms. It would have to be really, really unpopular to not do so in this day and age. All I said was that it's only fair to compare in today's dollars for them both.
Also just stop with the nonsense because at the time ANH was something that came at the right time and took the nation by storm which is harder to do I today's time given the MCU, dceu, the Potter films, the Lotr films or if you don't get my point by now it's simple. Epic fantasy and Sci Fi films are much more rampant and competitive for your dollar than say back in the late seventies.
ANH being a miracle success doesn't change the fact that it lacked the anticipation of an impending SW film that both TPM and TFA were so obviously empowered by.
TFA was a behemoth at the box office and acting like it's embarrassing is well ignorant to say the least.
Nobody's acting like it was embarrassing. Adjusted for inflation, it's still second to ANH, and beats 3rd place (ESB) by about half a million.
Avatar is an insanely lucrative film which has the China market downpat but can it replicate its initial success or come close to it. I doubt it but we will find out in a few years time. TFA was a massive success as well though and don't try to pretend otherwise. We are talking about these films and comparing them to the entire history of cinematic box office so they are all heavyweights in their own right.When doing an unadjusted top ten you most certainly can do hence why we see lists doing it all the time. I explained this but you just kept rambling on anyways repeating yourself.
I know with tickets sold Gone with the Wind is up there but I don't argue that unless I say tickets sold or adjust for inflation.I was right about the top three unadjusted. I created the thread to see how many Ot cucks were on this forum. I figured it was very high. Beni wanted the op rescinded and for us to freely attack each other. I granted the wish. If that's to harsh for you maybe kmc isn't for you.
Just for future reference when I make a point to cite an unadjusted list don't go on a rant complaining about it since my statement was accurate.
Don't be a snowflake.
Sounds like you're the one who's a snowflake because I exposed the fact that ANH was a far greater cinematic success than TFA, lol. Nobody cares that TFA grossed more than ANH in unadjusted terms. That's like being able to beat a two-year old in soccer. But maybe you do consider that an achievement.
Beni was joking, by the way. I hope you realised. Harsh? No way could it be harsher than the reality of the seeing the OT dominate the poll. 😂
Originally posted by SunRazerYes, because I gave the list for unadjusted inflation. The top three anyways. You ignored that for some reason and went on a rant. You don't speak for me and I wasn't dishonest about anything so who cares.
Your point was that TFA made more money than ANH; that's what I responded to. And nobody cares that it made more in unadjusted terms. It would have to be really, really unpopular to not do so in this day and age. All I said was that it's only fair to compare in today's dollars for them both.
So ? ANH was unlike anything anyone had seen at the time. Much harder to replicate that today than back then as there is far more competition.
ANH being a miracle success doesn't change the fact that it lacked the anticipation of an impending SW film that both TPM and TFA were so obviously empowered by.[/B]
I bet avatar 2 will share the same fate. Wait and see.
Well then don't imply it was embarrassing next time.
Nobody's acting like it was embarrassing. Adjusted for inflation, it's still second to ANH, and beats 3rd place (ESB) by about half a million.Sounds like you're the one who's a snowflake because I exposed the fact that ANH was a far greater cinematic success than TFA, lol. Nobody cares that TFA grossed more than ANH in unadjusted terms. That's like being able to beat a two-year old in soccer. But maybe you do consider that an achievement.
Beni was joking, by the way. I hope you realised. Harsh? No way could it be harsher than the reality of the seeing the OT dominate the poll. 😂 [/B]
I never said tickets sold just as I don't include Gone with the ****ing Wind despite its unprecedented success. I didn't make the list up but clearly those who make unadjusted lists care. Sounds like a you problem. Do you always tell people how to think.
As was I. Do you think I'm holding a knife as I posted that wanting to make someone bleed. Please calm down.
Popularity never made me do anything. I don't give one **** about anyone agreeing with my superior reasoning or preferences.
I don't think there exists another person on the planet whose fav Star Wars character is Snoke besides me.
Originally posted by SunRazer
*Correction: Meant TFA beat ESB by half a billion.Nowhere did I imply that TFA was embarrassing. I said it wasn't as good as ANH, that's it.
😂 That's some inferior conduct from you, superior one.
Well your lack of recognizing Snoke is fantastic shows me you have extremely poor taste. You do champion the poster boy for forward head rounded shoulders posture, Darth Sidious. Acknowledge Snoke has a superior look, superior voice, a superior presence, and is a superior character to Darth Sidious.
Sincerely, the Supreme Poster Quan.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Well your lack of recognizing Snoke is fantastic shows me you have extremely poor taste. You do champion the poster boy for forward head rounded shoulders posture, Darth Sidious. Acknowledge Snoke has a superior look, superior voice, a superior presence, and is a superior character to Darth Sidious.Sincerely, the Supreme Poster Quan.
And Snoke is also uglier. 💃
Originally posted by SunRazerLol, the point is he isn't a conventional villain like Vader, obviously he'll still be the biggest threat to the heroes.
Who's the villain going to be then? Hux? 😂Snoke coming back would be bad as it would devalue the entire point of his death scene in TLJ. It's kind of dumb either way.