Valkorion vs. Nihilus

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Valkorion vs. Nihilus

Both combatants in their prime.

Setting: Vjun

Starting distance: 100 feet

Who wins?

Valkorion. I'd say Nihilus is on par with novel Vitiate, but by SWTOR Vitiate already has accolades putting him above Nihilus.

Of course, there's always the gigadrain but eh.

Nihilus wins. Reasons: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/darth-nihilus-runs-the-vitiate-gauntlet-1919490/?page=1#js-message-19694903

Valkorian, Nihilus is below Novel Revan at best.

Valkorion.

Originally posted by Haschwalth
Valkorian, Nihilus is below Novel Revan at best.

Factually wrong.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Factually wrong.

?

There is no facts, other facts seem to support my stance.

The only claim for that is the Exile, yet the Exile states that Nihilus' power is literally impossible and unfathomable. Then not only does she say that, but when she actually meets Nihilus, she realizes he's far more powerful than she'd previously been led to believe. This was a starving Nihilus, obviously, so he's not even in his most powerful incarnation.

The line of logic is contradictory. Clearly she refers to his mastery of the Force, of which Nihilus has none.

Originally posted by Azronger
Nihilus wins. Reasons: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/darth-nihilus-runs-the-vitiate-gauntlet-1919490/?page=1#js-message-19694903

I will counter you there, don't worry.

Not worried, no.

Originally posted by AncientPower
The only claim for that is the Exile, yet the Exile states that Nihilus' power is literally impossible and unfathomable. Then not only does she say that, but when she actually meets Nihilus, she realizes he's far more powerful than she'd previously been led to believe. This was a starving Nihilus, obviously, so he's not even in his most powerful incarnation.

The line of logic is contradictory. Clearly she refers to his mastery of the Force, of which Nihilus has none.

She never sensed Nihilus in person when she made that comment, so she really had no context, to assume the amount of power one would wield to cause the death of Katarr. meaning you can't link it to Revan.

Tell me why would she think he is even more powerful as she believed if she was only force crushed by him, when he literally has drained a planet dry, lifted a ship out of a gravity well. Is TKing a couple people more impressive? sounds illogical.

Dude i'm pretty sure it was hard for Meetra not to feel Nihilus's full power try drain her, considering she was the target, it would be silly to think, she didn't feel a thing.

Also, it is stated in the Revan novel, and linked that his Mastery and strength came hand in hand, as stated by Nihilus, also it's stupid to think Nihilus has no mastery of the force aftering him using TK, at an insane level is silly.

Scourge Literally puts the context of command into Raw power
http://i.imgur.com/lLrAEYn.png

Pretty sure Ant has a good argument about, about command = Raw power.

Add that on top of Kreia's statements of Revan being regarded as "power", with Nihilus around, this was Mando wars Revan too, who grew more powerful as his darth incarnate and Reedemed/Novel version.

Not to mention Revan surviving Novel Vitiate's full power, put's him within this realm of power. As Vitiate already had Marka ragnos potential(candidate to succeed him), pre absorbing a planet with 8,000 sith lords then continuously growing for the next 900 years in power.

Valkorion wins, yeah.

Someone is so pissed off by Nihilus that he summoned The Vitiate Wank Support to demolish him. 😆

Valkorion might consume Nihilus' spirit ngl

He cannot consume a living singularity.

Nihilus's TK seems to eclipse Valkorion's.

Big N. may have an advantage through giga-drain that seems to be instantaneous, no?

Isn't there a double standard with some people using the Valkorion = most powerful Force user to put him above prior Force users, but then discounting the same quote about Sidious being the most powerful dark sider because "what about the Ones!"?

No. No double standard. Hope that clears that up.