Revan wins.
-Defeated Mandalore the Ultimate, The One (Black Rakata leader) & Twitch (Dueling Champion).
-Defeated Darth Malak even while the Sith was being amped by several Jedi Knights and the Star Forge itself, continuing to replenish his strength.
-Defeated Darth Nyriss, who in returned easily toyed Scourge and Meetra Surik .
-Gave Vitiate a pretty good fight, putting him on his ass twice.
-Took on an extremely powerful Sith strike team, for which in battle, he telekinetically poured asteroids at his opponents.
Your turn, member ILS.
Originally posted by BestDebaterEver
Revan has no counter to midichlorian manipulation
Or are you saying Revan can't offensively inflict damage on Plagueis? If that's the case, do you think Plagueis can regenerate his midichlorians faster than a lightsaber sweeping across his neck - in the hypothetical scenario Revan does do that?
Originally posted by JaggarathHow did I describe it? Plagueis "stopped short of defending himself" against Sidious out of bravado so I'm not sure I understand your point.
If the ability's as you describe, I imagine Plagueis would have used it offensively against Sidious.Or are you saying Revan can't offensively inflict damage on Plagueis? If that's the case, do you think Plagueis can regenerate his midichlorians faster than a lightsaber sweeping across his neck - in the hypothetical scenario Revan does do that?
I don't think I said that either.
Originally posted by BestDebaterEver
How did I describe it? Plagueis "stopped short of defending himself" against Sidious out of bravado so I'm not sure I understand your point.I don't think I said that either.
If not, can you tl;dr your case for midichlorian manipulation in two-three sentences, since it's hard to discuss when you're being terribly vague?
Originally posted by JaggarathThe text made clear that, from Sidious' perspective, Plagueis was confident in his invincibility and simply chose to replenish himself with midichlorian manipulation rather than defend himself.
To clarify in order to properly rebut or agree with, you're arguing Plagueis choose to die rather than use midichlorian manipulation offensively against Palpatine?If not, can you tl;dr your case for midichlorian manipulation in two-three sentences, since it's hard to discuss when you're being terribly vague?
Sure. Plagueis asks Revan's midichlorians to suffuse into the cosmic Force, they start, and just like that Revan is well on his way to dying. Meanwhile Plagueis fights him in other ways. On top of that he can replenish himself of some injuries should he sustain them.