CaV: SOR Revan(DarthAnt66) vs Darth Plagueis(i_like_swords)

Or, because in order to manipulate Sidious' midi-chlorians he'd have to override Sidious' will over them, he didn't even try because his apprentice's willpower exceeded his own?

Originally posted by Jaggarath
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Yes, but "defend himself" can mean different things. "Defend himself" doesn't necessarily preclude counter-attack.

This is why I tried to clarify if you thought "defend himself" includes counter-attack by asking you that earlier question, but you basically said you don't think it includes counter-attack.

You seem to be contradicting yourself terribly or being unnecessarily utterly vague about your concludes for no reason, but maybe you can explain.

Or maybe It is easier to just use MM on yourself than use it offensively on others and given the state Plagueis actually in, he simply chose to use the easiest course of action to save himself there. You can come up with any explanation to justify it because Plagueis being drunk and injured can be excused for not choosing the most logical course of action even if what he did was seemingly not logical which you haven't proved

Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
Or maybe It is easier to just use MM on yourself than use it offensively on others and given the state Plagueis actually in, he simply chose to use the easiest course of action to save himself there. You can come up with any explanation to justify it because Plagueis being drunk and injured can be excused for not choosing the most logical course of action even if what he did was seemingly not logical which you haven't proved

Nah, it's actually easier to use it on others (which is why Plagueis' feat of using it on himself is so insane). My explanation remains the most plausible one and in-line with the mechanics of midi-chlorian manipulation.

Everything Azronger says, it is sad. . .

Originally posted by NewGuy01
>dude deliberately doesn't defend himself against his attacker to prove he's invincible
>but he'd totally have killed his attacker ASAP to save himself if he could

^ also, Palpatine himself had at least some measure of control over midichlorians, so it probably isn't as simple to sever Sidious as it would be to do it to someone who is both unfamiliar with the technique and less powerful.