The Emperor's body spins helplessly into the void, arcing as it falls into the abyss. Finally, when the body is far down the shaft, it explodes, creating a rush of air through the room.-- http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-Return-of-the-Jedi.html
Obviously some things changed as the Emperor's body didn't spin or arc when it fell down. So this is far from capable of dismissing the source presented before. It would have to be other sources confirming the opposite of that source.
The Ood Bnar Supernova was calculated a while ago, said feat was him only enduring a dozen gigatons iirc. Since the Supernovae are omnidiectional explosions the energy released is scattered. Factor in distance and Bnars size, he is obviously not taking all that energy. Plus, Kun wouldn't scale from him simply because we don't know how said fight would go. Bnar pushed him away a bit, Kun didn't want to waste time fighting him thanks to thr Nova. Completely unknown.
Kun can be put above Vader depending how you interpret Lukes quote in the Hand of Thrawn Duology, but Vader scaling from Starkiller II is definitely better than Bnars scaling.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
I won't get into more details before my debate with Ant but if you seriously think that a human-sized target getting hit by a supernova from several light-hours away is impressive just because of the word "supernova", you should read up on basic geometry. As it is, this is sub-child Zannah tier. 👆
Jesus, I'm the biggest Zannah backer on this site and even I think its completely insane to compare that attack to a supernova.
If you're sufficiently distant, the effects of a supernova could end up being diminished to the firestorm that Zannah repelled as a kid, or even less.
It's all pretty ambiguous unless we have actual specifications for the distance from the supernova, or at least other effects experienced on the planet or something?
As AP said it vaporised every city on the planet, on top of smashing several nearer planets to pieces and was described as the most devastating thing the galaxy had ever seen. Its not like it was just a normal supernova, it was a cluster of 10 suns. Whereas with the Thought Bomb not only did others survive intact but even parts of trees weren't totally destroyed.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Kun is confirmed to be > Pre-Novel Vitiate prior to major power growth. Post-Nathema Vitiate is confirmed to be > Nihilus in the Revan novel. That's the fact here.
Actually, when Kun was confirmed the darkest power in the galaxy, it was post-Nathema because the Ritual took place in 4999 BBY whereas Kun's rise to power happpened in 3995-3996(from an in-universe perspective)
Also nowhere it is said that post-Nathema Vitiate>Nihilus. The Exile only said that the ritual must have made Vitiate stronger than how he was before the ritual. It was a description relative to Vitiate's own power.
Originally posted by Naugrim
Pretty sure defending himself against the "full power" of RotJ Sidious's lightning is not only comparable, but better then any of Kun's feats."When the evil Emperor, Supreme Master of the Dark Side of the Force, turned the fullness of his malevolence against Luke, Anakin Skywalker suddenly awoke from the curse that had imprisoned him for so long… Shedding his bleak and soulless identity of Darth Vader, Anakin took the full force of his Dark Master’s evil lightning upon himself - and hurled the Emperor to his death." - Dark Empire Endnotes.
This isn't mentioning that he's stated to be "weaker then he's ever been" when he accomplishes the feat.
"At that instant, Vader sprang up and grabbed the Emperor from behind, pinning Palpatine's upper arms to his torso. Weaker than he'd ever been, Vader had lain still these last few minutes" - Return of the Jedi.
1. That's because Sidious' Force lightning isn't as potent as people claim it to be? 😬
We saw it used on Windu, and it didn't do to him any considerable damage.
Sidious can turn people into pile of bones only when he is in the presence of a dark side nexus(e.g: Kalakar Six)
Weaker than he'd ever been
Because he just got a beat from his son and the emperor's lightning damaged his life support apparatus? ✅
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Actually, when Kun was confirmed the darkest power in the galaxy, it was post-Nathema because the Ritual took place in 4999 BBY whereas Kun's rise to power happpened in 3995-3996(from an in-universe perspective)Also nowhere it is said that post-Nathema Vitiate>Nihilus. The Exile only said that the ritual must have made Vitiate stronger than how he was before the ritual. It was a description relative to Vitiate's own power.
What are you talking about? None of this makes sense.
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
1. That's because Sidious' Force lightning isn't as potent as people claim it to be? 😬We saw it used on Windu, and it didn't do to him any considerable damage.
Sidious can turn people into pile of bones only when he is in the presence of a dark side nexus(e.g: Kalakar Six)Weaker than he'd ever been
Because he just got a beat from his son and the emperor's lightning damaged his life support apparatus? ✅
You didn't even read the full quote... He hadn't even been hit by the lightning prior to the timeframe that statement was covering.
Originally posted by Nephthys
As AP said it vaporised every city on the planet, on top of smashing several nearer planets to pieces
Yeah...so sub-shielded-ISD when you're only talking about the cross-sectional area of a human-sized target (Odan Urr).
and was described as the most devastating thing the galaxy had ever seen.
Not relevant to the specific amount of damage Odan had to injure.