Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Feel free to point it out to the forum publicly if it ever changes.But I'll say this: as it stands, I much rather debate you in a formal debate than Neph.
Well I'll take the opinion of the rest of the forum over yours lmao.
Anyway the recent beef has to do with one of Neph's forum antics that given your political positions ought disgust you, but I suppose defending the other TORtanic crew-mates is more important. 🙂
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Anyway the recent beef has to do with one of Neph's forum antics that given your political positions ought disgust you, but I suppose defending the other TORtanic crew-mates is more important. 🙂
Anyway, if I judged people based on how similiar their politics are to mine, I'd likely have to reassess a lot of my friends (ex. Sas).
I also find Neph having a mental breakdown and deceptively cropping together quotes to accuse me of racism and then trying to brush it off as my "political gripes" that he doesn't care about pretty par for course, as he clearly was not able to maintain one of the only competent rebuttals I've ever seen him give.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Post-Nathema Vitiate was more powerful than Darth Nihilus who can destroy Citadel Station whilst starved, and telekinetically pull a fleet of ships out of a gravity well prior to devouring five planets which each increased his power.Novel Vitiate could repeatedly one-shot Dark Councils; two random Dark Councillors tore down a Citadel with their duel. He also completely overwhelmed Revan in a raw power exchange; who in a much less powerful state could defeat a Star Forge empowered Malak, who is far more powerful than Ajunta Pall or Karness Muur. The latter of whom shares parity with ANH(at least) Darth Vader and Vong Krayt.
SWTOR Vitiate dominated the Dread Masters; was breaking Revan; was suppressing Vaylin's raw power; empowered his thousands of children who are all more powerful than any Sith can achieve; empowered the First Son who could shroud all of the aforementioned children with the dark side of the Force and hide them from the vision of the entire Jedi order; stalemated Sel Makor in the dark heart, an entity who controls said realm; dominated the combined wills of Tol Braga, the Hero of Tython, Leeha Narizz and Warren Sedoru; survived a physical death and was capable of maintaining all of the aforementioned whilst powering the dark ritual.
Spirit Vitiate, obviously as a weakened, disembodied entity drained Ziost upon recovering his lost strength by feeding on the deaths of the population he caused by mentally dominating the wills of all but a handle of beings on a planet of millions of Sith. Is claimed repeatedly to be capable of devouring the galaxy without any means to replicate his dark ritual.
Valkorion, confirmed in codex, by himself, and by Lana Beniko, to be more powerful than he'd been before. Meaning all of the aforementioned feats get progressively easier the further back in time those feats are committed. As a spirit, managed to channel powers through the Outlander such as insta-killing a small army of Zakuul Knights without preparation and without harming the Outlander's allies in the midst of the attack; repeatedly displayed the ability to manipulate the perceptions of other Force users; summoned a Force lightning storm so strong that the excess could cripple and kill the crews of, all ships in the vicinity of a massive docking bay; simultaneously overwhelmed and dominated the Outlander, Vaylin and Arcann; who had the aid of a holocron which could channel the powers of Satele, Darth Marr and Revan.
- The Outlander, is the most powerful opponent Valkorion has had, who deems him the only person in the galaxy worthy of his attention and of being his host. All prior to being empowered by Valkorion himself and taught a new side of the Force.
- Vaylin, shielded herself and Senya from the explosion of a hyperdrive whilst in it's immediate vicinity and without any prep; tore apart a power generator designed to withstand the pressure of a miniature sun, which was as big as surrounding skyscrapers, one of which has managed to tank the barrage of three Eternal Fleet destroyers before collapsing; was more powerful than Arcann, who could dominate the Outlander until KOTET, despite a boon of Valkorion's power; had raw power of which a small fraction instantly ashed Nathema Zealots. Performed the previous feats prior to having her chains unlocked and her power massively increased; increased so much that she went from being incapable of using rhe Force at all on Nathema to utterly decimating the Sanitarium to dust, which was a multi-level complex built into a small mountain.
-Arcann, powerful enough to tear through massive blast doors; dominate the Outlander; had the potential to achieve greater power than Vaylin according to Valkorion.
- Revan, split into two beings, one of which caused an ever-growing cyst in the very fabric of the Force that was everywhere and nowhere simultaneously; simply by existing in a corporeal form. Could manipulate and empower a device strong enough to wipe out all life on Yavin IV whilst simultaneously fighting a coalition strike team that had previously defeated the Dread Masters, and barely lost only due to the intervention of the spirit of Revan despite the energies of said device backfiring and severely wounding him. Then went on to fight the Outlander, Darth Marr, Lana Beniko, Shae Viszla, Jakarro and Theron Shan. With air support by Imperial and Republic bombers. Who could only prevail if amped by the Battle Meditation of Satele Shan.
It's been Valkorion in every spot on this list so far, nobody has come close to offering this kind of resumé throughout this series.
It's almost as if nothing that has been brought up so far has actually been comparable.
UnuThul has the combined Force strength of trillions of Killiks. Cool. Darth Nihilus was constantly feeding on the psychic misery of trillions of actual people and is still sub-Post-Nathema ritual Vitiate.