Originally posted by -Pr-
So without any outside amps or PIS, you're saying he's on average in the same tier as Molecule Man? And is there anything approaching consensus on this?
Yes. He is casually as his power-level is literally stated to have no limits.
I think that people expect him to warp one universe in every stories but even characters with feats on that order like Kubik, Beyonder or Molecule Man doesn't do that.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Yes. He is casually as his power-level is literally stated to have no limits.I think that people expect him to warp one universe in every stories but even characters with feats on that order like Kubik, Beyonder or Molecule Man doesn't do that.
So more laughable hyperbole?
Typical of those of blatantly lie about comic book stories.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Summary:SBP deals physical damages.
SENTRY is immune to physical damages.
That's a one way trip.
He destroys entire dimensions, escapes dimensional barriers that trap multiversal beings, and punches high end cosmics out of existence..
But ohh, Sentry would be a problem, the embodiment of everything he HATES - an emo edgelord's power fantasy pathetic Superman ripoff-- would def scare him.
Right.
You might be right about Sentry, RW, but without a consensus or Bada's say so (as he's the mod that knows more about Sentry than anyone and made the previous ruling), I don't see him being bumped up or treated as such any time soon.
If Marvel was more definitive with him (which they haven't imo from what I've seen), that would help too.
Originally posted by -Pr-
You might be right about Sentry, RW, but without a consensus or Bada's say so (as he's the mod that knows more about Sentry than anyone and made the previous ruling), I don't see him being bumped up or treated as such any time soon.If Marvel was more definitive with him (which they haven't imo from what I've seen), that would help too.
They're not.
For his extreme highs (Exitar, ripping his head apart, toying with Thor) there are his lows (the worm).
For Ares, there is the helicarrier.
For Molecule Man, there is Iron Man's depowering tech.
Sure, RW is ready to jump and have an in-depth sentence by sentence rebuttal about how each of those low showings have context etc...but the fact remains, he has highs just as he has lows. And there is no real consistent, average showings which make him jump tiers, or for us to start mixing and matching showings.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
They're not.For his extreme highs (Exitar, ripping his head apart, toying with Thor) there are his lows (the worm).
For Ares, there is the helicarrier.
For Molecule Man, there is Iron Man's depowering tech.
Sure, RW is ready to jump and have an in-depth sentence by sentence rebuttal about how each of those low showings have context etc...but the fact remains, he has highs just as he has lows. And there is no real consistent, average showings which make him jump tiers, or for us to start mixing and matching showings.
But even Mxy has lows. Most wouldn't bring them up, but recently Mxy was trapped in null space by Mr. Oz (Jor El). All characters have lows. DS Sentry has the worm, but is that a low, or a high for the Worm? Wouldn't that showing also be considered a plot induced fail to the highest extremes? DS Sentry tossed Thor light years away from him. Do you truly believe that the worm that swallowed him was a threat? It's not as if he didn't escape after all.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
*sigh*Prime energies are still limited and will not allow him to beat Sentry, physical damages are nothing to him.
Kon-El and Bart Allen in particular have a psychological edge on SBP. Which is why he's vulnerable to their attacks. Looks like that dynamic played a part there considering what SNP did to the Titans in Infinite Crisis.
Sentry doesn't have the luxury of that since he's another off brand Superman ripoff SBP wild take glee in punching out of existence.
Originally posted by RealityWarper👆
*sigh*Prime energies are still limited and will not allow him to beat Sentry, physical damages are nothing to him.
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Sentry rips him in half.
Originally posted by panthergodThis is Sentry from Siege so that's irrelevant. Try to know what you're actually debating. It's from a specific arc. Sentry beats the ever living shit out of Prime. Worse than a Teen Titans beat down.
Still more impressive than getting thumped by She Hulk and the Human Torch so ... No.Sentry get one shot annihilated.