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Originally posted by AncientPower
Valkorion's stated to be a distant superior to Nihilus after Nathema, the amount of power he obtains from then on essentially multiplies. Valkorion's better in every way.
No offence, AP. But this is Valky logicboyism.
When Vitiate absorbed Nathema into himself, Nihilus wasn't even in the timeline of the universe.
Besides that: Nihilus absorbed more planets' Force energies than Vitiate. Nihilus>Vitiate. Also accolades are unreliable, whether is for Palps or Vitiate.
Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
No offence, AP. But this is Valky logicboyism.
When Vitiate absorbed Nathema into himself, Nihilus wasn't even in the timeline of the universe.
Besides that: Nihilus absorbed more planets' Force energies than Vitiate. Nihilus>Vitiate. Also accolades are unreliable, whether is for Palps or Vitiate.
Darth Nihilus was not growing in power, rather risking self-destruction [pointed out by Kriea].
Conversely, Vitiate was growing in power on a consistent basis. He too acquired hunger as an unintended side-effect of his Dark Side experiments on Medriaas and had to satiate it by feeding on the life-force of others but he demonstrated very good self-control and stability. A chunk of energies that he absorbed, went into augmenting his strength accordingly.
You will find this blog interesting: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/tenebrae-slave-to-hunger-and-false-sith-1875700/
Originally posted by ILS
@Legend nothing you posted proves Vitiate's "hunger" is anything more than a yearning for power and immortality. Are these the quality arguments you were promising earlier? 😬
REVAN COULD FEEL THE EMPEROR FEEDING ON HIM, drawing on his power to sate his endless hunger.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan
AND;
"He lured many Sith Lords here before consuming them in a dark ritual that wiped out all life on the planet." (Lord Dramath)
"He did something similar on Ziost." (Lana Beniko)
"His hunger for immortality must constantly be fed." (Lord Dramath)
Why he is leeching energy of others virtually non-stop? And has to consume a planet occasionally?
Of-course, his thirst for greater power is well-known. However, his experiments and resultant gains push him towards leeching the energies of others to satiate his thirst - a hunger-esque situation.
Revan recognized this problem:
"He has become obsessed with power and immortality. The dark side is like a cancer inside him; it grows faster than he can feed it. He has consumed an entire world, but he still hungers. And with his hunger comes an all-consuming fear."
Hunger is not a tangible thing. It manifests as an unintended side-effect of actions and experiences of a character obsessed with power over the course of time.
Originally posted by ILS
Got a quote?
The ritual had obviously destroyed Nathema, snuffing out all life on the world. Lord Vitiate had offered his people hope and instead had brought them a fate worse than death—utter eradication of life, existence, and even the Force.Meetra was no expert on dark side sorcery, but it was safe to assume Vitiate not only survived the ritual but emerged more powerful than ever. And with the destruction of everyone on Nathema—including his research team—he alone would have known the location of Dromund Kaas. The plan was both horrifying and brilliant. In addition to becoming more powerful than Meetra could imagine.
- Revan
Given she can easily be referring to Force mastery when saying 'command of the Force' rather than raw power, then I have no reasons to doubt her. The actual evidence at hand supports such a notion. Not that she's got any reason to be incorrect as we know for a fact she grasps Nihilus' true power upon meeting him.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Given she can easily be referring to Force mastery when saying 'command of the Force' rather than raw power, then I have no reasons to doubt her. The actual evidence at hand supports such a notion. Not that she's got any reason to be incorrect as we know for a fact she grasps Nihilus' true power upon meeting him.
You're playing mental gymnastics, it seems.
Not even remotely.
Meetra states that Mandalorian Wars Revan had a greater command of the Force than anybody she'd ever met. If this referred to raw power, then she wouldn't consider Nihilus' destruction of Katarr to be nigh impossible. Which she clearly does upon Visas Marr and Traya describing his abilities. Not only that, but she further realises that he's far more powerful than she'd been led to believe. Why would Nihilus' power be so unbelievable if she think Mando Wars Revan is more powerful than that? The answer is that she's referring to Revan's immense understanding and mastery of the Force, his natural aptitude and great knowledge. All things he's noted repeatedly for by multiple sources. This goes right into the hands of the things Traya teaches about Nihilus' power. In which she states that he doesn't have any real power, that his techniques are an empty road to the dark side and that his power controls him. Not vice versa.
It's obvious, really.