Kyp Durron vs. Valkorion

Started by Haschwalth8 pages

No where does it state, Thon had to cleanse the dark side stains after, trapping the spirits, there is no contradiction, infact the spirits make the feat sound more impressive.

From, what I get, from these sources, thon essentially trapped the dark side energy from the screwed Ritual, and the spirits, within lake Natth.

Sorry give me your take on it ILS.

Originally posted by MythLord
"And he[Kyp] seized upon that void, directing all his Force abilities and discipline against it.

It was like using a thin metal rod to push a grounded landspeeder. Too much pressure and it would bend, becoming useless. Too little and nothing would happen. He had to find the right pressure to budge it, to set it into motion and keep it going that way...

For a moment, the only things in the universe were him, Jaina, and the void. He moved the void, turned it around, moved it back the other direction."

-- New Jedi Order: Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dreams

He moved the singularity.

So, Kyp didn't use only Telekinesis against the void, but also an arsenal of Force abilities. That shows it wasn't really easy what he had done if he resorted to other abilities.

You must be trolling?

Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
So, Kyp didn't use only Telekinesis against the void, but also an arsenal of Force abilities. That shows it wasn't really easy what he had done if he resorted to other abilities.

Well, of course it isn't easy, it did take effort, but what other abilities did he use? The text says he seized it and moved it... That's literally the textbook application of purely telekinesis right there.

So can we get clarification the dovin basal Kyp moved was as or more powerful than the Leviathan's gravity field generators? Would be a pretty deciding factor in this match.

Originally posted by Azronger
So can we get clarification the dovin basal Kyp moved was as or more powerful than the Leviathan's gravity field generators? Would be a pretty deciding factor in this match.

It is unless you think they regressed in technology over the past 4 thousand years.

While Kyp's raw power is in Valk's stratophere,he lacks the mastery and versatility to win.

Tenebrae wins, handily.

Kyp essentially is like Vaylin, as an comparison.

Originally posted by Haschwalth
It is unless you think they regressed in technology over the past 4 thousand years.

So you concede Kyp can move planetary masses. GG, he atomizes a thousand Valkorions with a thought.

Originally posted by Azronger
So you concede Kyp can move planetary masses. GG, he atomizes a thousand Valkorions with a thought.

Your funny. it in terms of energy its below Nihilus's drain, who is inferior to valkorian by several quotes.

Also as evident by Scourge/Revan it doesn't require much energy to live 300 or so years. Meaning Nathema, which Vitiate absorbed the essence of 8000 sith lords, on top of atomizing all life on the planet. the energy gained from that makes Kyp look like a *****.

Moving planets requires infinitely more amounts of energy than impacting it on a surface level( actually impacting the surface, is what I mean), and Nihilus's feat, that of merely draining all the life on the surface of a planet, isn't even on that level in terms of destructive output.

Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
Moving planets requires infinitely more amounts of energy than impacting it on a surface level( actually impacting the surface, is what I mean), and Nihilus's feat, that of merely draining all the life on the surface of a planet, isn't even on that level in terms of destructive output.

Cute, no. CT blog, backed by other people proficient in physics, state otherwise.
And Nihilus's drain was destructive, as it vaporised Oceans, on top of killing life. That requires vast amounts of destructive energies.

https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/star-wars-feat-kyp-durron-moves-a-quot-black-hole-quot.26409/#comment-221207

https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/star-wars-feat-darth-nihilus-vs-katarr-revised.36065/#comment-235822

Valkorian wasn't joking when he told the outlander to conjure an arsenal of Super weapons.

Originally posted by Haschwalth
Your funny. it in terms of energy its below Nihilus's drain, who is inferior to valkorian by several quotes.

Sorry, not interested in discussing this with the scientifically illiterate.

Originally posted by Azronger
Sorry, not interested in discussing this with the scientifically illiterate.

kek

Yeah, no. I need a quote for suggesting that the oceans are gone too, because all I have are "tends to suggest from the picture", when there is literally nothing that tends to suggest it at least from the given evidence in the blogs.

Not only is Nihilus much farther from the planet after its destruction to the point where the planet can be seen as a ball( compared to previous shots which are much, much closer), but even that aside, there is nothing in the picture that suggests that the oceans are gone.

before:
http://i.imgur.com/FOpDcha.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KD0BYpn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6eCu4R3.jpg

After:
http://i.imgur.com/SaQaKEU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IgGJ1RS.jpg

It's clear the pictures the atmosphere has changed, as if you look around the planets atmosphere seems be of been ****ed with, they aren't that far, as we should still be able to see oceans and the outlay of the land if that were the case.

Ziost, also collaborates what had occurred, same with Nathema. At this level of Drain/Destruction.

Also, CT's calcs are wrong. He/she assumes that Kyp moved it by just one meter? Wtf?

The full length of an interdictor is 600 m, and the portion of it that looks like the shark's mouth should be roughly 400 m. And Kyp accelerated it throughout that length, obviously, given the passage.

So the acceleration took place over 400 m of length which means that the energy required would be 400*14 petatons=5600 petatons.

Roughly 7 times more powerful than Nihilus's feat.

I am pretty proficient in physics myself, thank you.

Originally posted by Haschwalth
before:
http://i.imgur.com/FOpDcha.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KD0BYpn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6eCu4R3.jpg

After:
http://i.imgur.com/SaQaKEU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IgGJ1RS.jpg

It's clear the pictures the atmosphere has changed, as if you look around the planets atmosphere seems be of been ****ed with, they aren't that far, as we should still be able to see oceans and the outlay of the land if that were the case.

Ziost, also collaborates what had occurred, same with Nathema. At this level of Drain/Destruction.

No need to link the same pictures to me. I already know.

Yeah, and that doesn't change the fact that the two instances are "much farther away". The pictures after Katarr's destruction are much farther away than the ones before it. So no, there is no concrete basis for any of that.

As I said, even if they were close to the surface, there is nothing that indicates that the oceans were vaporized, lol.

That is a pretty blatant false equivalency, lol. Give me concrete evidence suggesting that Nihilus and Vitiate's feats are similar. You can't expect me to buy this just like that.