If Beerus is a 10...

Started by Blindside1210 pages
Blindside12 Restricted

No he's not. He doesn't even know ultra instinct

NewGuy01 perpetual

He can use an incomplete version of UI.

Blindside12 Restricted

Since when was incomplete version above the mastered form? He hasn't achieved even regular Ultra Instict for that matter not even close.

He was willing to give the nod to Goku for mastering it.

Inedian Senior Member
Originally posted by Blindside12
No he's not. He doesn't even know ultra instinct

He has UI, just not MUI (he fought 6 GoD together and was said he could even destroy them... far more than just fighting Jiren, but ok that was in manga). MUI Goku might be a better fighter than Beerus, but Beerus would catch up with Goku MUI with raw speed and power and would destroy him.

Blindside12 Restricted

Goku could fight all 12 an beat them. Goku has more power as he caught and flicked away the most powerful attack to date.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by NewGuy01
He can use an incomplete version of UI.

I'm trying to figure out how dodging is UI? I can post Namek saga Goku dodging, does this give him UI as well? Is there anything else showing Beerus or stating Beerus have UI?

Blindside12 Restricted

None. These noobs just invented the idea that scene means he has some form of UI.

Inedian Senior Member
Originally posted by Blindside12
Goku could fight all 12 an beat them. Goku has more power as he caught and flicked away the most powerful attack to date.

Zeno didn't even like that exhibition match because of brutality, he has no problem with Goku and Jiren or with anything in ToP.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by carver9
I'm trying to figure out how dodging is UI? I can post Namek saga Goku dodging, does this give him UI as well? Is there anything else showing Beerus or stating Beerus have UI?
Because Whis said that's what it was:

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by Blindside12
None. These noobs just invented the idea that scene means he has some form of UI.

That's dumb. Dodging doesn't = UI.

Estacado Legendary

Still that's pretty meh seeing how even noob UI Goku hasnt been tagged... not even once....

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Wut?

Beerus was fighting other Hakaishin there... ALL of them simultaneously. Until Jiren went full-power, Goku never fought anyone remotely close to Hakaishin-level at the ToP.

Estacado Legendary

He got caught in the end....😛

UI should make you untouchable...uhuh

Blindside12 Restricted
Originally posted by Estacado
Still that's pretty meh seeing how even noob UI Goku hasnt been tagged... not even once....

Very true, he's never been hit

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Estacado
He got caught in the end....
Negatory. Beerus broke free of Mosco's hold on the following page, proceeded to slap a few more Hakaishin around, and then finally launched an attack that could have evidently killed ALL of the other Hakaishin had Sidra(who can manifest THE most powerful barriers in the multiverse) not saved them all at the last second.

The implication is that Beerus' UI(incomplete as it is) still gave him a huge advantage over all the other Hakaishin.

Here is the entire scene from start to finish for anyone who still hasn't seen the whole thing:
https://i.imgur.com/xETUaqQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/r0Tr0Rb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BdVKgWd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6QFUnEA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5BK4u1R.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kK1wfUg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rIB0x7S.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/scE9cLd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/U3XF2GM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nHdESbZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KW0d2lY.jpg

Estacado Legendary

Manga Beerus should easily beat both Goku and Jiren in this case...

We would need to see them against GODs I mean we know they could defo beat 1 but 2 or 3 once?

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

I'm hoping the manga better-clarifies where guys like Jiren and GoD-Toppo actually stand in relation to true Hakaishin, like Beerus and the others. The anime hasn't really done that yet.

As of now, this is my current ranking:

MUI Goku > [limits surpassed Jiren(???)] > FP Jiren ~ Beerus ~/> n00b-UI Goku(third reveal) >>> ASSB Vegeta(emotion boost) >> Hakaishin-Toppo >> ASSB Vegeta(standard) = SSB Goku /w/ KKx20 >>>>> everyone else at the ToP.

*Obviously 'limits surpassed' Jiren is the biggest unknown, because we haven't seen him in action yet. Him aside, I feel pretty comfortable with my ranking... If you take personal bias of of the equation, the anime hasn't really indicated that it should be any different, imo. /shrug

Ridley_Prime Smug icon slayer

Some people denying that Beerus has any capacity of UI? My Zeno, the lowballing.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
Wut?

Beerus was fighting other Hakaishin there... ALL of them simultaneously. Until Jiren went full-power, Goku never fought anyone remotely close to Hakaishin-level at the ToP.

Toppo and Jiren are Hakaishin level. Don't know where this came from.

cdtm Restricted
Originally posted by carver9
Toppo and Jiren are Hakaishin level. Don't know where this came from.

Toppo is a candidate.