Juggernaut vs Superman

Originally posted by JBL
Sign!! Superman could not even bust through that force field in that same book. He was hitting it as hard as he could but was doing NOTHING!! It took thors hammer to bust through. Juggernaut shield took a full power hammer swing and it didn't even tickle juggernaut. Really simple to understand.

So triggered.

Originally posted by Delta1938
In the crossovers, Superman dropped Juggernaut and made him cry in pain(sucker punch or not), beat the ****ing **** out of Hulk like a redheaded step child (crying about fan voted in 3, 2--), beat Jean, caught a charged Mjolnir from a disadvantaged position before KTFO Thor from the same disadvantaged position, beat Jean Grey, Superman Blue beat both the founding lineups of the JLA and Avengers simultaneously (energy powers, but hey he was weaker than his normal powers), and more. But yes, let's focus on him doing poorly against Venom because your argument falls apart otherwise.

The OP posted Superman/Juggernaut from the crossover and said it continues from there. So how much do the rules apply in this situation? Just the crossovers that were canon? Just the DC VS MARVEL related ones? Just that one series?

Quit playing the victim. If I were "just using crossovers where Superman wins" I'd be using SUPERMAN VS INCREDIBLE HULK or whatever the name was. Hulk looks good in the initial fight when Superman didn't know what to expect, but then gets embarrassed twice. But everything about that says not canon, unlike the examples I cited which range from plausible canon to were confirmed (at least for their time).

You can't use other crossovers. If you want to use evidence from the actual crossover in which Superman fought Juggernaut, then that's borderline but okay.

Otherwise, use strictly canon feats from non-crossovers.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You can't use other crossovers. If you want to use evidence from the actual crossover in which Superman fought Juggernaut, then that's borderline but okay.

Otherwise, use strictly canon feats from non-crossovers.

So we've got Superman dropping Juggernaut and making him cry in pain with one punch, and beating the ****ing ****ity **** out of Hulk in a few blows, in crossover examples.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Cain with the gem has his forcefield unless Marvel themselves say otherwise.

And keep the personal shit out of it please.

Originally posted by carver9
This settles a lot of discussions that is currently taking place across KMC. Late posting this but it is needed.

Superman actually hurts Juggy with a single punch.

As seen on panel.

He wins.

Rebirth sups (if this is who is fighting) is very unimpressive so far. He has a speed advantage but Jugs should be able to beat him.

Originally posted by Cable_Extreme
Rebirth sups (if this is who is fighting) is very unimpressive so far. He has a speed advantage but Jugs should be able to beat him.

Welcome to KMC.

Originally posted by Delta1938
So we've got Superman dropping Juggernaut and making him cry in pain with one punch, and beating the ****ing ****ity **** out of Hulk in a few blows, in crossover examples.

As long as it occurs in the same mini, it's valid for this debate due to what the OP said. No Axxess or whatever it was called, and no JLAvengers either.

Originally posted by Cable_Extreme
Rebirth sups (if this is who is fighting) is very unimpressive so far. He has a speed advantage but Jugs should be able to beat him.

First day, welcome!

Thanks to the two above, my new account status won't let me tag ):

Originally posted by carver9
Juggernaut stomps tbh. The same Superman right after this showing fought Venom and got crushed and Venom was talking highly of Jugs during the time be was beating Superman skull in. Juggernaut 10/10.

Superman can always Bfr him.

Originally posted by JBL
Sign!! Superman could not even bust through that force field in that same book. He was hitting it as hard as he could but was doing NOTHING!! It took thors hammer to bust through. Juggernaut shield took a full power hammer swing and it didn't even tickle juggernaut. Really simple to understand.

If we are talking about Rebirth (current sups), he couldn't even get past Slade's gravity sheath shield in Deathstroke #8

Superman actually hit so hard he burst his own capillaries.

Rebirth Sups is relatively weak compared to his post- Crisis counterpart.

Originally posted by Cable_Extreme
If we are talking about Rebirth (current sups), he couldn't even get past Slade's gravity sheath shield in Deathstroke #8

Superman actually hit so hard he burst his own capillaries.

Rebirth Sups is relatively weak compared to his post- Crisis counterpart.

Originally posted by Cable_Extreme
If we are talking about Rebirth (current sups), he couldn't even get past Slade's gravity sheath shield in Deathstroke #8

Superman actually hit so hard he burst his own capillaries.

Rebirth Sups is relatively weak compared to his post- Crisis counterpart.

Wasn’t it explained in superman 32 that superman was holding back from breaking th shield in fear of damaging thing around him?

Damaging what things? His hands?

Originally posted by JBL
Damaging what things? His hands?

Go read Superman #32
He breaks the shield in one hit. He states even that he needs to be carefully because he doesn’t want to “kill” only destroy the shield. More so, it shows how he has to hold back from killing him

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Wasn’t it explained in superman 32 that superman was holding back from breaking th shield in fear of damaging thing around him?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I’m generally curious, do you pretend to be an clueless when it comes to Superman related Vs threads? It feels like your hatred towards Superman completely clouds any judgment you may have.

Go read Superman #32
He breaks the shield in one hit. He states even that he needs to be carefully because he doesn’t want to “kill” only destroy the shield. More so, it shows how he has to hold back from killing him

Originally posted by Cable_Extreme
It didn't seem like he was holding back, I mean he broke his own capillaries.

Can you link it?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Sorry on mobile but I PMed you the link to the issue

Originally posted by Cable_Extreme
Have to wait until you or someone else post it, however I distinctly remember a barrage of punches from Superman in that comic, not one punch.

But yes, Superman initially throws a few flurries and notices that his opponent has a shield. Superman then punches him one time and break it
He even stated that he is actively avoiding using his power to avoid accidentally killing his opponent

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I’ll try and post a few scans a bit later when I’m off mobile

But yes, Superman initially throws a few flurries and notices that his opponent has a shield. Superman then punches him one time and break it
He even stated that he is actively avoiding using his power to avoid accidentally killing his opponent