Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't know. DC has the luxury of saying "nah, that shit didn't happen", whereas people like the X-Men are stuck with every bad decision every writer has ever made in relation to them.Simpler? Sure? Easier to stomach... I don't know.
Originally posted by Cable_ExtremeHe IS post-Crisis Superman and New 52 Superman in one.
his feats are incredibly low in comparison to his post crisis counterpart.
His feats aren't lower than his post-Crisis counterpart at all.
Just a few months ago he proved to be so fast, he can run back in time under his own power, but he needed the cosmic treadmill for precision. That is much faster than any previous version baring pre-Crisis.
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He also took a massive beating from the Superman Revenge Squad pilling up on him, and he got up afterwards virtually unharmed. That's several mid + high herads at once.
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And for casual strength feats, he plays catch with Supergirl from Earth to the Moon and back:
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Let's not talk out of our asses.
Originally posted by Cable_Extreme
If this is current Sups (Rebirth) Juggs should win. Rebirth sups's not only holds back a lot, his feats are incredibly low in comparison to his post crisis counterpart.If this is post crisis, then it is a stalemate unless Sups can BFR him.
Originally posted by Cable_Extreme
So much easier with Marvel
Not to mention the soft retcon marvel does with their characters all the time. Just give me Cable or Rachel Summers history with a straight face if you can.
The fts Phil posted are lame. The first scans, he needed the treadmill, no way around that. Flash uses it for the same reason.
The villains punching on him was damaging him. As shown, blood was flying everywhere and lol, they were holding back. One of them even screamed out "don't kill him yet". Also, there are heralds that have fts better than this like Thor withstanding a beating from Odin and getting up afterwards. That's a freaking Skyfather or withstanding a beating from Kurse, someone who is 4 times more powerful. Also, Superman was saved.
Originally posted by xJLxKingI assume carver said something stupid again?
The thread mill as explained thousands of times already, doesn’t amplify the power/speed of the user.’it only grants precision to where you want to go in timeThe user still has to power the threadmill under their own speed
Like clockwork.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman was unable to do it. Then he used a hammer and destroyed the shield.How does Thor factor in that? Thor didn't use his strength to destroy the shield. It was Superman's strength and the hammer which did it and Superman is stronger than Thor.
What's better that Thor tried to hit Superman with the same hammer who caught it and KTFO Thor. That somehow means Thor hits harder than Superman, right?
Exactly, they needed Superman’s strength plus Thor’s hammer because Thor’s strength with the hammer wouldn’t have been enough.
