Black Panther & Killmonger vs Thor

Originally posted by FrothByte
Following your logic: A suit ain't a shield, therefore BP's suit won't block hits as effectively as Cap's shield.

Stuck your foot in your mouth didn't ya?

And that's why i said previously that I DON'T BELIEVE the suit to be AS STRONG as the shield.

In that same logic, IM's suit aint as strong as Cap's shield neither!

Now, BP's suit is made of VIBRANIUM, whilst Tony's MK 47 ain't! Do you know what else is made of VIBRANIUM????? Cap's shield 😂

So joining our previous agreements, Cap's shield>BP's suit>Tony's IM suit, due to the fact that Cap's shield holds a relationship with BP's suit!

Are you sure you haven't checked your mouth???

😂

Froth this ain't a debate you can win due to the simple fact that most evidence points at my side.

BP's suit isn't more durable than Tony's. One of the earliest Ironman armors was tough enough to eat a tank round.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
And that's why i said previously that I DON'T BELIEVE the suit to be AS STRONG as the shield.

In that same logic, IM's suit aint as strong as Cap's shield neither!

[B] Now, BP's suit is made of VIBRANIUM, whilst Tony's MK 47 ain't! Do you know what else is made of VIBRANIUM????? Cap's shield 😂

So joining our previous agreements, Cap's shield>BP's suit>Tony's IM suit, due to the fact that Cap's shield holds a relationship with BP's suit!

Are you sure you haven't checked your mouth???

😂

Froth this ain't a debate you can win due to the simple fact that most evidence points at my side. [/B]

Why do you keep bringing up Cap's shield when you yourself said BP's suit is not as tough as it?

Are you ever going to post an actual feat of BP's suit surviving a bigger blunt trauma than IM's?

Also remember that IM's suit withstood multiple hits from Cap's shield without damage.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
BP's suit isn't more durable than Tony's. One of the earliest Ironman armors was tough enough to eat a tank round.

And? Do you have evidence to suggest that BP's suit wouldn't? Or is it just your opinion?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Why do you keep bringing up Cap's shield when you yourself said BP's suit is not as tough as it?

Are you ever going to post an actual feat of BP's suit surviving a bigger blunt trauma than IM's?

Also remember that IM's suit withstood multiple hits from Cap's shield without damage.

Why do you keep trying to play the fool?

I don't need to, i have already proven that IM's suit is less durable than BP's suit. It's now on you to prove otherwise.

We shall continue this debate until you do so.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Why do you keep trying to play the fool?

I don't need to, i have already proven that IM's suit is less durable than BP's suit. It's now on you to prove otherwise.

We shall continue this debate until you do so.

You didn't prove squat. You proved that Cap's shield is indestructible and doesn't feel pain. That would be relevant if we were discussing Cap's shield, we're not. Stop dodging the question and just post feats of BP's suit tanking more damage than IM's suit. Is it really that hard for you to understand the concept of feats?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
And? Do you have evidence to suggest that BP's suit wouldn't? Or is it just your opinion?

The fact that BP got hurt from a rhino charge heavily indicates that a tank round will hurt him quite good.

Originally posted by FrothByte
You didn't prove squat. You proved that Cap's shield is indestructible and doesn't feel pain. That would be relevant if we were discussing Cap's shield, we're not. Stop dodging the question and just post feats of BP's suit tanking more damage than IM's suit. Is it really that hard for you to understand the concept of feats?

Cap's shield broke IM's suit, Vibranium> Gold Titanium, BP's suit > IM's suit.

It's pretty clear i have.

Originally posted by FrothByte
The fact that BP got hurt from a rhino charge heavily indicates that a tank round will hurt him quite good.

Got hurt? lol, go watch the movie again, in no moment was that a serious injury to claim that the suit is weak!

The suit wasn't breached or harmed!

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Got hurt? lol, go watch the movie again, in no moment was that a serious injury to claim that the suit is weak!

The suit wasn't breached or harmed!

No, we're not only talking about durability of the suit. We're also talking about the ability of the wearer to tank damage, as that is the ultimate goal of a protective armor is it not?

BP was knocked down, winded, and took time to get back up after the rhino hit. Compare that to Tony who shrugged off a tank shell.

Now, I will concede that Tony's armor does get damaged more easily than BP's suit. However, it is also clear that BP feels a lot more blunt trauma attacks than IM does. Just look at how the Dora Milaje were affecting Killmonger with their hits.

Originally posted by FrothByte
No, we're not only talking about durability of the suit. We're also talking about the ability of the wearer to tank damage, as that is the ultimate goal of a protective armor is it not?

BP was knocked down, winded, and took time to get back up after the rhino hit. Compare that to Tony who shrugged off a tank shell.

Now, I will concede that Tony's armor does get damaged more easily than BP's suit. However, it is also clear that BP feels a lot more blunt trauma attacks than IM does. Just look at how the Dora Milaje were affecting Killmonger with their hits.

Okay, so now you claim that we shouldn't be debating which suit is stronger but which suit absorbs more energy. Okay, concession accepted, BP's suit>IM's suit durabilitywise.

Now, lets move to the next topic...Oh yes the Rhino!

1. Killmonger clearly stated that one spear was enough to destroy a tank.

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCTPq2QEGc

I believe Iron man was knocked down, winded, and took time to get back up after that Russian Tank shell hit him.

3. That tank is a T-75 or T-70 most likely, which shells should proof not enough to 1 shot a modern tank (Abrams/ T-14 Armanta etc).

4. The Rhino is clearly more powerful than a spear!

Rhino>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>An old tank shell.

Again, i believe it's clear that BP's suit is better for taking damage than IM's suit.

What are you going to try to bring up now Froth? 😂

Originally posted by FrothByte
No, we're not only talking about durability of the suit. We're also talking about the ability of the wearer to tank damage, as that is the ultimate goal of a protective armor is it not?

BP was knocked down, winded, and took time to get back up after the rhino hit. Compare that to Tony who shrugged off a tank shell.

Now, I will concede that Tony's armor does get damaged more easily than BP's suit. However, it is also clear that BP feels a lot more blunt trauma attacks than IM does. Just look at how the Dora Milaje were affecting Killmonger with their hits.

Pretty much. To use a very simplified example, if you fill a sturdy burlap sack with eggs and then beat it with a bat, you're unlikely to damage the sack itself, but the eggs are probably going to be shattered. Just because the armor can take the hit doesn't mean the guy inside it can.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Pretty much. To use a very simplified example, if you fill a sturdy burlap sack with eggs and then beat it with a bat, you're unlikely to damage the sack itself, but the eggs are probably going to be shattered. Just because the armor can take the hit doesn't mean the guy inside it can.

Inform yourself TheVault.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

1. Killmonger clearly stated that one spear was enough to destroy a tank.

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCTPq2QEGc

I believe Iron man was knocked down, winded, and took time to get back up after that Russian Tank shell hit him.

3. That tank is a T-75 or T-70 most likely, which shells should proof not enough to 1 shot a modern tank (Abrams/ T-14 Armanta etc).

4. The Rhino is clearly more powerful than a spear!

Rhino>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>An old tank shell.

[B] Again, i believe it's clear that BP's suit is better for taking damage than IM's suit.

What are you going to try to bring up now Froth? 😂 [/B]

After revising the Iron Man vs Tank scene, it's clear that it is most likely a T-80.

Which is still, not enough to destroy modern tanks in one shot.

Unless ofcourse it hits a weakspot or it's extremely close, which would increase the penetrating force of the shell .

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Okay, so now you claim that we shouldn't be debating which suit is stronger but which suit absorbs more energy. Okay, concession accepted, BP's suit>IM's suit durabilitywise.

Now, lets move to the next topic...Oh yes the Rhino!

1. Killmonger clearly stated that one spear was enough to destroy a tank.

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRCTPq2QEGc

I believe Iron man was knocked down, winded, and took time to get back up after that Russian Tank shell hit him.

3. That tank is a T-75 or T-70 most likely, which shells should proof not enough to 1 shot a modern tank (Abrams/ T-14 Armanta etc).

4. The Rhino is clearly more powerful than a spear!

Rhino>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>An old tank shell.

[B] Again, i believe it's clear that BP's suit is better for taking damage than IM's suit.

What are you going to try to bring up now Froth? 😂 [/B]

What we've been debating on simce the very beginning is whether BP can tank hits from Thor, or have you forgotten? This is something that you have yet to provide any proof for. You focus on making strawman points out of everyone's arguments and yet never provide any proof of your own. All you do is repeat your baseless opinions.

So I ask again, what proof have you that BP can tank Thor's hits when guys like IM and even Hulk can't do so? You understand what proof means right Josh? They do explain things like this in your school right?

P.S. - are you telling me that rhino can survive getting hit by a tank shell?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

Rhino>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>An old tank shell.

This has got to be one of the stupidest things you've said. Though probably not as stupid as you saying Spiderman is more powerful than Thor.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Inform yourself TheVault.

My point.

Your head.

Originally posted by FrothByte
This has got to be one of the stupidest things you've said. Though probably not as stupid as you saying Spiderman is more powerful than Thor.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Reconsider you words! We are talking about a Wakandian Rhino covered in Vibranium here, but ofcourse, you are too ignorant to understand that.

Originally posted by FrothByte
What we've been debating on simce the very beginning is whether BP can tank hits from Thor, or have you forgotten? This is something that you have yet to provide any proof for. You focus on making strawman points out of everyone's arguments and yet never provide any proof of your own. All you do is repeat your baseless opinions.

So I ask again, what proof have you that BP can tank Thor's hits when guys like IM and even Hulk can't do so? You understand what proof means right Josh? They do explain things like this in your school right?

P.S. - are you telling me that rhino can survive getting hit by a tank shell?

Much like h1, he believes that his massively biased opinion is proof.

Originally posted by FrothByte
What we've been debating on simce the very beginning is whether BP can tank hits from Thor, or have you forgotten? This is something that you have yet to provide any proof for. You focus on making strawman points out of everyone's arguments and yet never provide any proof of your own. All you do is repeat your baseless opinions.

So I ask again, what proof have you that BP can tank Thor's hits when guys like IM and even Hulk can't do so? You understand what proof means right Josh? They do explain things like this in your school right?

P.S. - are you telling me that rhino can survive getting hit by a tank shell?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2KrQgjU0ZM

Concession accepted Froth! BP's suit>>>>IM's suit..

I believe IM endured Thor's hit pretty well and even shamed the poor Asgardian.

If an MK6 IM suit was able to endure it, then T'Challa's latest version of the BP suit would just laugh at the challenge.

You've lost all points by now Froth!

1. You were unable to counter the fact that BP's claws can and will harm Thor.

2. You were unable to counter the fact that the Panthers are better fighters than Thor.

3. You were unable to counter the fact that BP's suit is more durable than IM's suit, which means it will be able to tank Thor's punches.

You've clearly lost this debate buddy. As i said before, you can love Thor as much as you want! I respect YOUR OPINION.