Screen feats.>>> Statements
Also even if Vibranium is the strongest metal around doesn't mean T'Challa cant be KO'ed with a powerful blow. The Rhino ramming into him left him dazed for a bit even when he had the suit on. Thor hits much harder than that Rhino. One strong hit from Thor and its over for them.
This is H1 levels of stupidity. Like when he argues for newspaper clippings, what a background characters says or what he things should happen based on his own speculations.
Also profiled the "Spider Man is well beyond Thor's level of power" comment . lulz
Originally posted by Darth Thor
There was no change to his physical stats in Ragnarok.In any case Hes already fought Hulk without his hammer in Avengers.
Seriously Darth!? You know perfectly what i mean! Pre Ragnarok means all feats prior to the Ragnarok Movie.
If you want to turn the blind eye to the OP's regulations that's your problem.
Avengers fight don't give Thor any feat to defeat T'Challa, as simple as that.
Originally posted by FrothByte
So are you saying vocal statements made in a movie trump movie feats? Just let me know if this is how you want to debate because I can start using the same tactic.In short, proof has been shown that Thor actually has some decent hammerless feats but you don't want to admit you were wrong so you'll hide behind backhanded insults.
Now you are bending my words!!
We've only seen T'Challa's suit in two movies! CW and BP! That's enough to show how massively durable T'Challa's suit is! It received impacts from 50 caliber bullets without damage, it received a Rhino's with Vib horn impact, granades, and many more without damage!
Also, last time i checked BP's claws were able to harm Cap's shield. In BP movie, we saw Killmonger and T'Challa scratching each other's suit without any visible damage.
Based on that feat alone is ENOUGH to prove BP suit>> IM suit durability wise! [COLOR=crimson] Or will you now claim IM's suit>>Cap's shield!!? Will you fall so low in order to support your idol Thor [/COLOR=crimson]
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Movie statements are valid for debating as per Impediment. So BP suit>>IM suit.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Screen feats.>>> StatementsAlso even if Vibranium is the strongest metal around doesn't mean T'Challa cant be KO'ed with a powerful blow. The Rhino ramming into him left him dazed for a bit even when he had the suit on. Thor hits much harder than that Rhino. One strong hit from Thor and its over for them.
This is H1 levels of stupidity. Like when he argues for newspaper clippings, what a background characters says or what he things should happen based on his own speculations.
Also profiled the "Spider Man is well beyond Thor's level of power" comment . lulz
Two words: INFORM YOURSELF.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Now you are bending my words!!We've only seen T'Challa's suit in two movies! CW and BP! That's enough to show how massively durable T'Challa's suit is! It received impacts from 50 caliber bullets without damage, it received a Rhino's with Vib horn impact, granades, and many more without damage!
Also, last time i checked BP's claws were able to harm Cap's shield. In BP movie, we saw Killmonger and T'Challa scratching each other's suit without any visible damage.
Based on that feat alone is ENOUGH to prove BP suit>> IM suit durability wise! [B] [COLOR=crimson] Or will you now claim IM's suit>>Cap's shield!!? Will you fall so low in order to support your idol Thor
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Movie statements are valid for debating as per Impediment. So BP suit>>IM suit. [/B]
So after all that, are you actually ever going to post a feat that shows BP's suit being as durable or more than IM's? BP's suit is not Cap's shield. Cap's shield is separate from him and the shield doesn't feel pain. BP has been shown to feel pain despite having his suit on... or are you going to ignore this too?
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If statements are valid for debating then we know Thor defeated some of Coulson's best SHIELD agents which makes him a better fighter than T'Challa. We also know that Thor is at least a thousand years old which makes him a far more experienced and better fighter than T'Challa. Is this how you want to debate?
Statements are supposed to supplement feats, not completely replace them.
Originally posted by FrothByte
So after all that, are you actually ever going to post a feat that shows BP's suit being as durable or more than IM's? BP's suit is not Cap's shield. Cap's shield is separate from him and the shield doesn't feel pain. BP has been shown to feel pain despite having his suit on... or are you going to ignore this too?Post Data:
If statements are valid for debating then we know Thor defeated some of Coulson's best SHIELD agents which makes him a better fighter than T'Challa. We also know that Thor is at least a thousand years old which makes him a far more experienced and better fighter than T'Challa. Is this how you want to debate?Statements are supposed to supplement feats, not completely replace them.
Funny how he brings Cap's shield as a comparison into this thread, but was arguing that Cap's shield > T'Challa's suit in the Cap vs Killmonger thread.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
And again, the Black Panther suit isn't as invulnerable as the shield is.
Originally posted by FrothByte
So after all that, are you actually ever going to post a feat that shows BP's suit being as durable or more than IM's? BP's suit is not Cap's shield. Cap's shield is separate from him and the shield doesn't feel pain. BP has been shown to feel pain despite having his suit on... or are you going to ignore this too?Post Data:
If statements are valid for debating then we know Thor defeated some of Coulson's best SHIELD agents which makes him a better fighter than T'Challa. We also know that Thor is at least a thousand years old which makes him a far more experienced and better fighter than T'Challa. Is this how you want to debate?Statements are supposed to supplement feats, not completely replace them.
Are you going to ignore the fact that Cap's shield was dented by Vib Claws and that Cap's Shield》》 IM's suit? And that Ad claws had literally no effect on the BP's suit?
Its useless to debate someone who can barely understand a simple concept.
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Bucky and Cap》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》 》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》 Some Guards.
The simple faxt that you cant grasp such a concept makes you incompetent for debating.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Funny how he brings Cap's shield as a comparison into this thread, but was arguing that Cap's shield > T'Challa's suit in the Cap vs Killmonger thread.
Funny how you are incapable of understanding relations!
Caps Shield getting damaged by Vib Claws> Vib claws showing no VISIBLE damage ON BP's suits> Caps shield EVIDENTLY rupturing IM's suit.
Conclusion: The suit is as strong or a bit less stronger than the shield, yet the shield managed to clearly damage IMs suit.
BP's suit is clearly more durable than IM's suit?
Can you understand a simple concept!!?
Or will you play ignorance like in the Luke Cage vs Cap thread?
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Are you going to ignore the fact that Cap's shield was dented by Vib Claws and that Cap's Shield》》 IM's suit? And that Ad claws had literally no effect on the BP's suit?Its useless to debate someone who can barely understand a simple concept.
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Bucky and Cap》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》 》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》》 Some Guards.
The simple faxt that you cant grasp such a concept makes you incompetent for debating.
So are we debating using feats or statements? You can't have it both ways you know.
The claws are not what's being discussed since Thor isn't punching BP's claws, it's the suit that's getting hit. And BP could feel Cap's hits with his shield. Heck, BP was flinching from regular hits from Cap and Bucky, whereas Thor didn't even flinch when he got hit on the head with Cap's shield.
It took multiple hits from Cap's shield to damage IM's armor, and BP's suit has no feats of taking that many hits from Cap's shield or any other similar trauma.
Furthermore, Cap's shield was never dented by BP's claws. Scratched paint yes, dented, no.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Funny how you are incapable of understanding relations!Caps Shield getting damaged by Vib Claws> Vib claws showing no VISIBLE damage ON BP's suits> Caps shield EVIDENTLY rupturing IM's suit.
Conclusion: The suit is as strong or a bit less stronger than the shield, yet the shield managed to clearly damage IMs suit.
BP's suit is clearly more durable than IM's suit?
Can you understand a simple concept!!?
Or will you play ignorance like in the Luke Cage vs Cap thread?
Gosh Josh, are you seriously this dumb? You might want to double-check what you're saying before you make yourself even more of a fool.
Everyone knows that blunt trauma is different from slashing/piercing attacks.
You keep using the claws as some form of proof yet Thor doesn't have claws. He'll be punching and kicking and grappling, which means what you need to prove is BP's suit surviving greater blunt trauma than what IM's suit has encountered. Not whether it can get scratched or not.