MUI Goku vs IG Thanos

Started by The Ellimist4 pages
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
The ENTIRE point of my post is that said sensory input will not matter in this forum setting where they begin the fight and Goku could potentially just snag it while moving at 100% from the get-go

Say we assume Goku will magically know to snatch Thanos's gauntlet and immediately speed blitz him, even though he's never done this before.

Thanos says he turned off the sensory input from "time, space, reality, thought and the soul" and only retained his raw power. This would obviously impede his reflexes/reaction time in addition to his prescience.

Do you seriously think Goku has faster reaction speeds than someone who has absolute power over thoughts and the mind?

Do you seriously think Goku has faster reflexes than someone who is infinitely physically powerful/fast/etc.? (he obviously wasn't using the power gem to its max potential in that scan or he would've killed Captain America with a pinky jab)

Do you seriously think Goku can move faster than someone who has absolute mastery over time and space, e.g. the dimensions through which Goku has to move?

Likewise, the fact that trying to take out Thanos with time travel failed because it was like "trying to drown the ocean" demonstrates that his defenses actively exist and he doesn't have to "bring them up" for Goku to preempt.

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Also, in that scan Silver Surfer clearly attacks Thanos when he isn't looking, so it tells us nothing about his reflexes even with those restrictions on his abilities.

Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet is literally someone who has near-absolute mastery over every aspect of reality itself. If you were to drop him on Earth today there would literally be no way in principle that you could distinguish his powers from those of any of the described Abrahamic Gods. Goku is a powerful dude who can fly (incredibly) fast and shoot (absurdly) powerful energy beams. There's absolutely no comparison between the two.

lmao

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
I don't think you're understanding what I mean here. My point is that Thanos wouldn't be able to stop Goku because Goku could blitz him before he could do anything.

Just like I believe many speedsters would snag it from him. Sensory input be dammed, Thanos can't do anything in a forum setting where he is rendered null until the fight starts, if his opponent is fast enough to stop him from using his powers.


The problem is that Thanos has the ability to slow down and even freeze individual characters in time. We see this in Infinity Gauntlet #4.

Granted, you could consider Thanos snapping his fingers to be the trigger for the event and argue that Thanos wouldn't have time to do that. But given what we've saw throughout the series with Thanos reshaping reality with his will alone, I'd argue that it's nothing more than a visual representation of Thanos using his power.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
What good will it do him to know that Goku will take the glove, if he can't do anything until the fight starts, meaning that Goku, or any high-tier speedster by that measure(like Flash, or even Silver Surfer if he was able to react to his own speed), could snag it off him before he can react?

Like previously shown, the limitations Thanos had when he almost lost the Gauntlet were self-imposed.

Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
The assertion that Galan is making here is that Thanos has infinite reaction speed with the IG, which is simply untrue and baseless.

If Thanos can freeze time and operate externally to that time-freeze then his reaction speed would in fact be unlimited. The best argument you could make is his reaction speed prior to that isn't enough to keep Goku away from snagging the Gauntlet off his hand.

And when you consider the fact that Thanos was able to brush off the combined efforts of Marvel's cosmic pantheon, and even usurp Eternity role, that claim becomes dubious at best. Especially since Goku has no way of knowing that Thanos' power comes from the Gauntlet.

Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos.

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