Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
1.And yet anyone with a bit of understanding over explosives knows that a normal bomb doesn't create a vaccum to later explote! At least not nuclear warheads.Again, it's irresponisible to just compare such a blast with Earthly ones! Just like you can't compare fireworks with RPG shells or granades.
You also forget the fact that a large magnitude bomb doesn't necessarily means high destruction capability in an specific object.
https://www.seeker.com/is-lightning-hotter-than-the-sun-1765058578.html
Normal lightning for instance have been recorded to be hotter than the Sun. No nuclear warhead made by man has ever surpassed the Sun's heat, or at least not to my knowledge.
Thor's Lightning are way beyond normal Earth Lightning.
2. Ehhhhhh.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRhStl7SQnM
If you are right, and the Surfer's bomb is like a nuclear warhead then....Earth would have felt it!!!
The blast of that "explosion" was seen crossing through Earth. Yet we saw no EMP effects nor Radiation effects.
[B] Again, that is anything but an earthly bomb
3. Except Thor striked the ground which in return exploded and sent him flying away. Isn't like the Surfer which just outcasted the energy vaporizing Galactus.
We see the same example in Odin's Keep when the lightning destroys the building. He is sent flying away due to the explosion of this one, not due to his own power/energy.
It's like saying that somehow Superman would vaporize his eyes every time he uses his laser beams.
4. Now you read mines. [/B]
1. Unless the primary explosion was the Surfer and the rest is just Galactus’ death throes. Or that the explosion caused a rip in space that acted like a mini singularity that lasted for a short moment, etc. Either of the above is better than your “not a normal explosion” route. Or maybe it was just shown that way for dramatic effect because an exploding Galactus would look boring on screen.
Bottom line is, the story was told in a simple manner. The explanation for what happend is defined[/] by the script. Someone saying that they both gonna kill himself and hos target and then exploding right after is meant to die from the explosion he caused. There was NO indication or even a hint of him “dying from energy drain” or anything in that scene or even in the movie that would even implied that he can die from this. There needs to be a storytelling tool needed for you to even argue that your theory is even viable.
My explanation is simple and consistent with the script. Yours is a theory unsupported by anything and you are just throwing it out there and hoping it sticks. You have zero evidence of death by drain. End of the day, we compare evidence. You cannot just stand trying to discredit my points without also supporting yours.
Dude. Ligtning has an average temp of 30,000 degrees Celsius. An nuke can create heat in excess of 100,000,000 degrees Celsius. Do your research first pls..
Lightning is hotter than the [b]surface of the sun. Which is its coolest layer. A nuke creates temperatures equal to the sun’s interior....
http://www.atomicarchive.com/Effects/effects7.shtml
https://www.seeker.com/is-lightning-hotter-than-the-sun-1765058578.html
2. Actually, the Surfer’s explosion happened at (2:50) of your clip.
What happens at (2:52-2:54) where it sends a wave that hits the Earth, seems to be a separate event. Which happens an entire Earth distance away from Surfer’s initial explosion at (2:50). Either a singularity sucking in Galactus matter and blasting it into space or just a dramatic representation of Galactus’ death throes.
Either way, this point is meaningless. As a) atmosphere/magnetic field can still deflect this and it looks like it did. b) it is a serparate event that has no bearing on the initial explosion as it happened at a different time and different position.
And no one said this was an eartly bomb. Don’t strawman pls. I said an explosion is an explosion is an explosion which will share similar (but not exact) characteristics and magnitude due to its size. It is not exact but it establishes the orders of magntitude we are talking about here. Jeez, no offense, but it is hard to explain things to you. I’m pretty sure everyone reading this already gets it.
Here is as simple an explanation as I can some up with. A mountain of rock and a mountain of soil would have far different weights. But the magnitutde is established. It is a mountain of matter. Which you are comparing to a small boulder. Even if this was “not a normal explosion” (whatever that means), it is still pretty much established that its size demonstrates that Thor’s best attack is just a spark compared to it. Can we at least agree on this now?
3) Now you are just splitting hairs to differentiate one explosion from the other. First Thor is immune to his lightning, now apparently the explosion affected him because it hit the ground. Surfer isn’t firing a blast or heat vision. He is detonating himself. He is at the center of the blast. Story says that he is doing this to end himself and Galactus. We shouldn’t even be going further than that. That is all the explanation needed.
Projecting the energy that causes the explosion does not mean he is projecting the explosion itself. <— this logic is consistent to both Thor’s and Surfer’s showing. Being in the center of the explosion means that you will be suffering its ill effects.
You need to prove immunity here. Again, you cannot just sit there trying to discredit my point by throwing theories around without substiating your own theory.
4) Um. In order for you to say this, you will need to point out the parts I missed/ignored. I can do so for you (specifically that you need to stil mentioning Galactus’ durability as it has no bearing in this debate. Something that I have mentioned many many times), can you do so for me?