Originally posted by CosmicComet
She moved fast enough to melt a scalpel. Super sonic level stuff.Nothing better than odinson's tower building feat.
Complex brain surgery on a dozen patients simultaneously? Are you basing that on the melting point of the scalpel?
Originally posted by One Big Mob
Fast enough to land a shot, not fast enough to be the difference maker in his favor.
This.
He's not going to speed blitz the opponent, but even if the opponent can fly many hundreds of times faster than light, he'll still land a hit (Vs. Gladiator).
Jane Thor speed blitz against the Frost Giants was really impressive however. Aaron's Thor was flying around many times the speed of light in combat. I think with Mjolnir in hand, maneuverability + dimensional breaking flight speed + superhuman reflexes makes speed a non-factor unless you really need to downplay it to justify there even being a fight.
Ah, I just noticed. The scalpels actually melt and she switches them.
Complex brain surgery, including the initial incisions (Skull, tissue, and into the brain), treatment and removal on multiple patients simultaneously in a few moments before they all die is a ridiculously impressive application of speed I could only imagine the Flash accomplishing. And they weren't even normal tumors, they were growing, evil tumors that fought back.
Even more impressively, this was her first time using speed at this level as she never had to before, which I think pretty much sums up this thread.
Basically she did several hours of work in moments.
It's a good but certainly not elite speed feat at all. Casual lightning side stepping Quicksilver could certainly do it.
New 52 Supes read every medical text ever published (physical books and digital databases too) and in seemingly seconds, not just read, but understood and mastered.
Supergirl transcribed several quintillion lines of code in a literal eye blink.
Both are feats that are countless orders of magnitude faster than Jane Thor's feat. In the case of Supergirl' s feat it's actually a massively faster than light feat done casually. And by massively I mean lots of zeros. Like a flash type of feat.
You should be talking to Rage. He brought up the [false] comparison to Flash for the Jane Thor feat saying he can't imagine a character outside of a Flash doing what she did.
I corrected him, more accurately appraising the feat and giving two feats by non-Flash characters that are easily far above the feat. I also brought up Quicksilver first as a character that could easily replicate that feat, before the two you mentioned.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Ah, I just noticed. The scalpels actually melt and she switches them.Complex brain surgery, including the initial incisions (Skull, tissue, and into the brain), treatment and removal on multiple patients simultaneously in a few moments before they all die is a ridiculously impressive application of speed I could only imagine the Flash accomplishing. And they weren't even normal tumors, they were growing, evil tumors that fought back.
Even more impressively, this was her first time using speed at this level as she never had to before, which I think pretty much sums up this thread.
^How about you try reading your own thread my poor Norwegian fool?
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Congrats on inadvertently derailing this yourself. Didn't need my help.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I was wrong about the crowd thinking it was an earthquake, but their fight was happening too fast for the crowd below to see...http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/OneDumbG0/media/bWVkaWFJZDoyNjE2MDY2Mg==/?ref=
That is incorrect. The comic doesn’t say that the fight was happening too quick for the crowd to see.
Someone in the crowd says that it’s not a movie, it is real life. And then the writer says that it is real life, which the crowd is too quick to perceive.
It means that the crowd is sharp and quick enough to realize that it’s real life, and there’s thus real danger to them.
Nothing about the two fighting so fast they cannot be seen
Re: How fast is Thor?
Originally posted by krisblaze
How fast do you think Thor is?There seems to be two trains of thought, one being that he's practically peak human and the other that he is FTL.
More than a long winded debate where Abhi eventually defecates on the sidewalk outside Rage's trailer I'm just curious as to how fast people consider him?
Perception and movement I suppose, with and without Mjolnir.
Fast enough to react to and deflect multiple/then catch a tank round (average speed 1580 to 1750 m/s) in flight.
You're welcome, KMCer.
Originally posted by carver9
How fast do you have to move to melt metal just by moving around? That's insane.
It’s a good feat Carver. Not necessarily insane (by comic book standards), but a feat that nonetheless places the character above street levelers.
In regards to the speed it takes ...as someone already mentioned, supersonic will do it. And not even high level supersonic (definitely less than hypersonic).
And in my opinion ...she wasn’t even moving supersonic (as I’ll explain below). She was likely moving at less than Mach 1, and I’ll show why the scalpel would still melt. Using the example of a pencil. But before that ...let’s talk about one of the greatest planes ever ...
Take the SR-72 Blackbird, which could reach sustained Mach 3 speeds (and is a really amazing aircraft that was decades ahead of its time when it came out in the 60s). It had to be made out of titanium, because other metals would absolutely melt away at such speed. Not only that, but when parked on the ground it would leak fuel like a sieve. Reason being it’s fuel tanks had gaps ...since the designers had to leave spaces, since the titanium would warm up and soften as the plane flew, and expand to fill the gaps!
So, anything that is low supersonic will start to melt most metals, with surgical steel melting at about 1,400 degrees Celsius. Considering she was moving around very quick, and there is not only air friction but the friction of cutting though flesh and bone ...continuously ...she could even have been moving at lower than supersonic speed (lower than Mach 1) since that blade was doing a lot of cutting, which would warm it up faster than if it was just air friction. In the same way running a pencil quickly on a piece of wood will make it smoke, yet waving the same pencil quickly in the air will not even make it slightly warm.
Thus, she was likely not even moving supersonic. Just really quickly, and cutting through a lot of material (flesh and muscle). If one does tamashegiri ...cutting rolled mats with a katana ...they’ll notice the blade gets slightly warm after cuts.
Re: Re: Re: How fast is Thor?
Originally posted by spetznaz
Midnighter did that with a tank shell as well ...by kicking it ...
Thanks for the corroboration, KMCer.