Re: Re: How fast is Thor?
Originally posted by cdtm
I think an ftl argument takes more proof then "tagging" someone. Speedsters get tagged all the time. Captain Boomerang?I do think Mjolnir is ftl.
Wonkier still.. Mjolnir outraces the laser beam and Thor had enough time to whirl it around for shielding. This happened a couple of pages before. Lol... Comics..
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Originally posted by abhilegend
This is absolutely not showing the feat, eh?
It’s basically done off panel. There is a squirrel girl toon quality to this scene and the book. Isn’t this the same book where she snaps finger and KOs Gog?
Originally posted by xJLxKing
I think he is on Wolverine's level majority of the time with a few exceptions where he has tagged or fought with opponents that were fasterI just don't think marvel is into speed.
Thor’s speed is comparable to DC’s male gods, save for speedster gods like Hermès. An Asgardian like Angela has comparable speed to Diana.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Thor’s speed is comparable to DC’s male gods, save for speedster gods like Hermès. An Asgardian like Angela has comparable speed to Diana.
I agree ! 😄
Even the crossovers shows that.
There isn't much emphasizes on combat speed in comics, that's much more a manga thing.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
I agree ! 😄Even the crossovers shows that.
There isn't much emphasizes on combat speed in comics, that's much more a manga thing.
Speed is emphasized as an equalizer. That is why the speed of weaker characters and Street level characters are emphasized. When characters are equal in strength, they move at the same speed. If comics had to be totally consistent, they would either take away all superspeed from top tiers or give them all superspeed while no longer having street levelers interact with top tiers.
Speed may be emphasized less in Marvel because Street level characters are more prominent and interact more with top tiers.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Speed is emphasized as an equalizer. That is why the speed of weaker characters and Street level characters are emphasized. When characters are equal in strength, they move at the same speed. If comics had to be totally consistent, they would either take away all superspeed from top tiers or give them all superspeed while no longer having street levelers interact with top tiers.Speed may be emphasized less in Marvel because Street level characters are more prominent and interact more with top tiers.
That's wrong. They almost all fight at similar speed.
There is simply no correlation between the ability to run/fly fast of the top tier and their ability to trade blows.
Nothing is equalized, nada.
You are rationalizing something which doesn't need to be rationalized.
Re: How fast is Thor?
Originally posted by krisblaze
How fast do you think Thor is?There seems to be two trains of thought, one being that he's practically peak human and the other that he is FTL.
More than a long winded debate where Abhi eventually defecates on the sidewalk outside Rage's trailer I'm just curious as to how fast people consider him?
Perception and movement I suppose, with and without Mjolnir.
His perceptions are very high. He can at least see bullets moving through the air. So on average, I'll say 5-10 times faster than a human in perceptions.
His movement speed is about 2-5x the speed as Cap. So probably about 5-10 times faster than a human.
Traveling speed is more about acceleration and not top speed. How long does it take a character to reach light speed?
Originally posted by RealityWarper
That's wrong. They almost all fight at similar speed.There is simply no correlation between the ability to run/fly fast of the top tier and their ability to trade blows.
Nothing is equalized, nada.
You are rationalizing something which doesn't need to be rationalized.
Where did I say anything about running or flying? I’m not sure how your statement is different from anything I stated.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Where did I say anything about running or flying? I’m not sure how your statement is different from anything I stated.
You said that "Speed is emphasized as an equalizer. "
How should it be like this when the combat speed, is already the same for everyone ?
Characters like Hyperion or Superman are only faster in travel speed, so I assume that you are making a correlation between both.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
You said that "Speed is emphasized as an equalizer. "How should it be like this when the combat speed, is already the same for everyone ?
Characters like Hyperion or Superman are only faster in travel speed, so I assume that you are making a correlation between both.
When Spider-Man is in a confrontation with Hulk, he is always portrayed as faster and able to Hit Hulk at will while dodging all or most of Hulk’s punches. This greater speed compensates for Hulk’s greater strength. The speed serves as some degree of an equalizer between the two.
Being that a character like Gladiator is in Hulk’s strength class, he needs no equalizer, thus he and Hulk fight at the same speed. So yes, top tiers, especially top tiers in strength, always fight at the same speed. Street level characters are almost always faster than top tiers when they fight them.
Historically, when Spider-Man fights Kingpin, he looks no faster than Kingpin and Kingpin looks no weaker. They are equalized. Now where exactly am I wrong?
Originally posted by TheHulkster
When Spider-Man is in a confrontation with Hulk, he is always portrayed as faster and able to Hit Hulk at will while dodging all or most of Hulk’s punches. This greater speed compensates for Hulk’s greater strength. The speed serves as some degree of an equalizer between the two.Being that a character like Gladiator is in Hulk’s strength class, he needs no equalizer, thus he and Hulk fight at the same speed. So yes, top tiers, especially top tiers in strength, always fight at the same speed. Street level characters are almost always faster than top tiers when they fight them.
Historically, when Spider-Man fights Kingpin, he looks no faster than Kingpin and Kingpin looks no weaker. They are equalized. Now where exactly am I wrong?
Nothing is equalized....
Hulk has a bigger reach, and he anticipate one of Spider-man's move. It doesn't mean that Hulk is faster or more agile.
They aren't equalized. Your reasoning is wrong.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Nothing is equalized....Hulk has a bigger reach, and he anticipate one of Spider-man's move. It doesn't mean that Hulk is faster or more agile.
They aren't equalized. Your reasoning is wrong.
Who said that Hulk is faster or more agile? I certainly didn’t. When Spider-Man faces Hulk he is shown as more faster and more agile. This allows him to not be crushed by Hulk.
Gladiator has Superspeed.
Kingpin has gone toe to toe with Spidey.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Who said that Hulk is faster or more agile? I certainly didn’t. When Spider-Man faces Hulk he is shown as more faster and more agile. This allows him to not be crushed by Hulk.Gladiator has Superspeed.
Kingpin has gone toe to toe with Spidey.
Fine that we agree about Hulk vs Spider-man.
Gladiator has superspeed when it's about running and flying, when it is about trading blows he is in the same class than other characters. Nothing special about it.
Yeah, and Kingpin isn't quicker than Spidey, which doesn't make Spidey untouchable.
