The rationalization of politics

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No, they don't follow the same principals. I've known many muslims who deride ISIS, because they believe that the faith is meant to be one of peace, not war.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I don't know much about Antifa as a group, I've always seen them as a sort of grassroots youth movement that are controlled by a small group of stupid retards who can't seem to understand the qualities of subtlety. Liberals in general don't take to the streets and cause civil disturbances. So no, they are separate.

Neo Nazis, and Nazis in general for that matter, are categorized almost overwhelmingly by their extreme violent action, and their bigoted views. This man committed violent actions, and has a bias for white supremacy. Him punching down dreadlock girl was not the only instance of violence from this guy.

Yeah plus if we can affiliate the alt-right with the nazis, then can we affiliate the far left with Stalin and Mao?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah plus if we can affiliate the alt-right with the nazis, then can we affiliate the far left with Stalin and Mao?

Cept the Nazis labelled/re-branded themselves "Alt-Right"; it wasn't a label pushed on them. Did you forget?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
**** it, because you lie and misinterpret my words to suit yourself, I'm going to answer.

YOU COULD NOT PROVE IT AT THE TIME OF THE ARGUMENT, thus at the time your argument boiled down to her being an Antifa member was the entire justification, because it was the ONLY Justification you had.

Don't jerk people around and say "because later evidence proves things", when the argument was had, you had no leg to stand on. That was the important thing to remember, because that was when you were being irrational. And that was my point.

But you will ignore that just like you'll ignore the 2nd point, where you brought Antifa up out of f**king nowhere in a thread where a Neo Nazi mowed down and killed an innocent woman. You obviously give no shits about appropriate time and place considerations do you?

I couldn't prove it, but it was my opinion she had. That is the point. Whether I could prove it or not, I was not advocating attacking innocent protesters or anything like that. Don't jerk people around? Don't spread bullshit.

Bottom line: I thought she was violent from the beginning. The fact later evidence came out to prove me correct is actually irrelevant.

If there was a group of Antifa just doing nothing but peacefully protesting and some people just came up and beat the shit out of them? That is not okay. Going to somewhere just to start shit and participating in violence? Not okay. And from the beginning that is what I thought, whether I could prove it or not.

Originally posted by Robtard
Cept the Nazis labelled/re-branded themselves "Alt-Right"; it wasn't a label pushed on them. Did you forget?

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm not saying or suggesting that it didn't happen because I know full well that such a thing is possible, but when and how exactly did this official name change happen? Did a couple of core leaders of the neo nazis and KKK come out and make an announcement that they'd thereafter being calling themselves Alt Right or what?

Here is the problem with "they labeled themselves it!". This was done, apparently, by Richard Spencer. He applied that label to himself and his definition was never "nazi".

But now instead of people self identifying as members of the "alt right" it is hurled as an insult. It's the p*ssies way out of calling someone a nazi.

Originally posted by Surtur
Here is the problem with "they labeled themselves it!". This was done, apparently, by Richard Spencer. He applied that label to himself and his definition was never "nazi".

But now instead of people self identifying as members of the "alt right" it is hurled as an insult. It's the p*ssies way out of calling someone a nazi.

Do you know how he did define it at the time?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah, yeah it doesn't surprise me, that guys's a freaking moron lol

Do you know how he did define it at the time?

A few months ago he did this long interview with Roaming Millenial which does show a lot of how he thinks. Essentially it was meant to merely be an alternative to mainstream Republicans, he feels that mainstream Republicans were not able to effectively counter the left and feels a better way to do this is identity politics.

I think the guy is racist don't get me wrong, but what is implied with the term when used as an insult is not what he meant with it(according to him). Plus like I said he applies the term to himself. People like Ben Shapiro have been labeled alt right though lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
Here is the problem with "they labeled themselves it!". This was done, apparently, by Richard Spencer. He applied that label to himself and his definition was never "nazi".

But now instead of people self identifying as members of the "alt right" it is hurled as an insult. It's the p*ssies way out of calling someone a nazi.

Yeah, covered that, White Supremacist relabeled and re-branded themselves as "Alt-Right" as the classic Neo-Nazi shtick isn't as appealing to potential angry White people. Take away the haircuts, polo shirts and khakis, they're still Nazis, sport.

Careful. Else it might look like you're trying to defend them again and your little buddy Spencer.

So again if you are going to associate all white supremacists with the Nazis can we associate all marxists with the Soviet Union and Maoist China?

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, covered that, White Supremacist relabeled and re-branded themselves as "Alt-Right" as the classic Neo-Nazi shtick isn't as appealing. Take away the polo shirts and khakis, they're still White Supremacist, sport.

Careful. Else it might look like you're trying to defend them again and your little buddy Spencer.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
So again if you are going to associate all white supremacists with the Nazis can we associate all marxists with the Soviet Union and Maoist China?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
So again if you are going to associate all white supremacists with the Nazis can we associate all marxists with the Soviet Union and Maoist China?

Cept no one did that.

You do realize that "Alt-Right" is a self applied label, yes?

Originally posted by Robtard
Cept no one did that.

The KKK are White Supremacist, but they're their own group of low-rent racist. The Alt-Right are better organized and their tactics are more clever.

Originally posted by Robtard
The KKK are White Supremacist, but they're their own group of low-rent racist.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, covered that, White Supremacist relabeled and re-branded themselves as "Alt-Right" as the classic Neo-Nazi shtick isn't as appealing to potential angry White people. Take away the haircuts, polo shirts and khakis, they're still White Supremacist, sport.

Careful. Else it might look like you're trying to defend them again and your little buddy Spencer.

Lol nobody is defending them. The point is that something racist folk came up with to identify as...is being used to hurl as an insult towards people the left disagrees with.

This doesn't mean nobody they apply it to believes in the same stuff Spencer does, but it's also not rare for it to be tossed at someone it just doesn't apply to.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol nobody is defending them. The point is that something racist folk came up with to identify as...is being used to hurl as an insult towards people the left disagrees with.

This doesn't mean nobody they apply it to believes in the same stuff Spencer does, but it's also not rare for it to be tossed at someone it just doesn't apply to.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
They also get to pretend it's Halloween weekly.

😛

Originally posted by Robtard
😛