The rationalization of politics

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Ja, because her squatting beside her beleeding boyfriends head is a crime now.... "She participated!" She was trying to keep her man from being mauled by a pack of Neo Nazis.

And?

Except I wasn't. Nor does one completely separate point invalidate another completely separate point. If you cannot argue the complete point because your lazy then say so. Don't blame me when i'm not wrong in what I said. Perhaps then you should not have replied at all.

Which does not diminish my point at all.

You lied. At the very least you were misleading. You were acting like I had no good reason to think violence being done back to her was fair game, when in fact from the beginning I thought she had participated.

So how does it not diminish your point? Yes, I hate Antifa. Yes, I thought a violent member of the group warranted violence in return. If you want to say I derailed a thread, okay?

DZ didn't lie, you're just doing flips because he nailed you to the wall with this:

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Hold up.... I seem to remember you were the one who did the original comparative there Surt. In the first thread, the one about Dreadlock girl, you cracked it with everyone because we did not agree that a near 300 pound Neo Nazi punching a girl less than a third of his size to the ground was good. You argued for several dozen pages that because she was Antifa it was alright.

The very next time I saw the comparative being made was when a Neo Nazi was trying to mow people down with his car, killing one woman. Now, neither person there had anything to do with Antifa, and yet the very first thing that gets mentined by you is Antifa. That time YOU made the comparative, and you pulled out out of nowhere for no reason other than to continue your grievance.

Now, I'm not going to go quote hunting through utterly ancient threads, I'm bedridden and sick and not up to that sort of thing anymore... but you get my point. I don't think anybody cares that you hate Antifa. What matters is that your hatred seems to spurn you into spinning absolute lies and exaggerations on top of legitimate wrongs they may do, and then you bring them up in places where mentioning them is completely unwanted, unwarranted and unneeded.

Nope. He pretty much Flat Out Lied.

Nice to see that you still support such behavior.

Originally posted by Robtard
Um, he started 'Identity Evropa', a White Supremacist website. Is that enough or do you need further proof?

Originally posted by Robtard
DZ didn't lie, you're just doing flips because he nailed you to the wall with this:

Umm, he says I said it was okay because she was Antifa. No, I thought it was okay because *I thought she had participated in the violence* with her fellow Antifa bros.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well I would need to check look into it a little deeper, but it definitely has the potential. And I'm only saying that I'd need to look into it a little deeper because there's always the possibility of a group like neo nazis effectively taking over a web site. If it was started as a neo nazi website then yeah that'd definitely be enough.

Okay, he was also one of the key promoters/starters of the Charlotsville "Jews will not replace us!" Alt-Right rally. Do you need further proof, because I'm starting to feel unless I can show you a picture of him giving Himmler a hummer, you'll brush it aside.

Originally posted by Surtur
Umm, he says I said it was okay because she was Antifa. No, I thought it was okay because *I thought she had participated in the violence* with her fellow Antifa bros.

**** it, because you lie and misinterpret my words to suit yourself, I'm going to answer.

YOU COULD NOT PROVE IT AT THE TIME OF THE ARGUMENT, thus at the time your argument boiled down to her being an Antifa member was the entire justification, because it was the ONLY Justification you had.

Don't jerk people around and say "because later evidence proves things", when the argument was had, you had no leg to stand on. That was the important thing to remember, because that was when you were being irrational. And that was my point.

But you will ignore that just like you'll ignore the 2nd point, where you brought Antifa up out of f**king nowhere in a thread where a Neo Nazi mowed down and killed an innocent woman. You obviously give no shits about appropriate time and place considerations do you?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Nope. He pretty much Flat Out Lied.

Nice to see that you still support such behavior. [/B]

Where is the lie? Hows lefty BTW? Did you chop him off your wrist yet? Or do you still need that wanking hand?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
He was arrested for things like minor hate crimes, and was known as a friend among the Neo Nazi and KKK circles.

All that being said, I regret coming back into these debates... I simply do not have the energy for this sort of shit that I once did. My passion of it has dwindled in the face of..... other issues.

With that I shall bid thee good day.

Now don't get me wrong because depending on the specific circumstances he very well could be a neo nazi and there's certainly cause to suspect him of being such. And if what Rob said is accurate and he actually started a neo nazi website then that's more than enough, it's just that I'm always suspicious of claims that are supported by headlines without reading the content of the article.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Where is the lie? Hows lefty BTW? Did you chop him off your wrist yet? Or do you still need that wanking hand?

The Lie is there everytime You open your mouth to push you Leftist Fascist Comments.

😱

Originally posted by darthgoober
Minor hate crimes and being friends with neo nazis isn't really enough though. You can be a racist without being a nazi, it would depend on the nature of the crime. By the same token you can be a friend with nazis without actually being one, just as a Muslim can be friends with someone in ISIS without actually being an ISIS fighter.

Now don't get me wrong because depending on the specific circumstances he very well could be a neo nazi and there's certainly cause to suspect him of being such. And if what Rob said is accurate and he actually started a neo nazi website then that's more than enough, it's just that I'm always suspicious of claims that are supported by headlines without reading the content of the article.

I always thought that if a guy supports the principals of the ideology, then he follows that ideology, IE if you follow and support the Nazi principals, then you are a Nazi. Or in this case a Neo Nazi.

But that's just my defining qualifier, may be different for you.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]The Lie is there everytime You open your mouth to push you Leftist Fascist Comments.

😱 [/B]

And of course, you have evidence of me even being left, never mind anything I've said being a lie.

Hows about you just shut up? You have had nothing useful to say since 2010.

So you admit to being a actual NAZI seeing as how the Left shares many of the same principals as the Actual Nazis then?

Gottchya..

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]So you admit to being a actual NAZI seeing as how the Left shares many of the same principals as the Actual Nazis then?

Gottchya..

[/B]

No I don't. I'm not a leftist, nor do I follow Nazism or it's principals.

Again, put down the bong and beer, keep lefty out of your panties, and try to think before posting.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I always thought that if a guy supports the principals of the ideology, then he follows that ideology, IE if you follow and support the Nazi principals, then you are a Nazi. Or in this case a Neo Nazi.

But that's just my defining qualifier, may be different for you.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." -Kurt Vonnegut (Mother Night)

Which is something I've said in regards to some Trumpers here.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No I don't. I'm not a leftist, nor do I follow Nazism or it's principals.

Again, put down the bong and beer, keep lefty out of your panties, and try to think before posting.

Nah. You are a Nazi.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Nah. You are a Nazi. [/B]

Nah. You are an idiot. 🙄

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Nah. You are an idiot. 🙄

Whatever you say Fascist Lap Dog.

😉

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I always thought that if a guy supports the principals of the ideology, then he follows that ideology, IE if you follow and support the Nazi principals, then you are a Nazi. Or in this case a Neo Nazi.

But that's just my defining qualifier, may be different for you.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Do you hold Muslims to the same standard in regards to being members of ISIS? What about liberals and members of Antifa?

No, they don't follow the same principals. I've known many muslims who deride ISIS, because they believe that the faith is meant to be one of peace, not war.

I don't know much about Antifa as a group, I've always seen them as a sort of grassroots youth movement that are controlled by a small group of stupid retards who can't seem to understand the qualities of subtlety. Liberals in general don't take to the streets and cause civil disturbances. So no, they are separate.

Neo Nazis, and Nazis in general for that matter, are categorized almost overwhelmingly by their extreme violent action, and their bigoted views. This man committed violent actions, and has a bias for white supremacy. Him punching down dreadlock girl was not the only instance of violence from this guy.