Okay tracking down my original comment in Nova's Count Dooku Respect thread part one.
If viewing it in Blog mode it's on comment page 7. I think that's an honest mistake on Nova's part when copying. It's been a while since I've gone through these. But bare minimum there is no such quote in issue 48.
Just the one scanned.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Damn, Nova exposed.In fairness though, besides perhaps the Outlander, who are we saying is a better pure swordsman than Dooku?
Nah it was an honest mistake.
YOU actually asked for verification straight away. I scanned and made the scan public for all to see and PM'd you it literally the next day.
So no Nova had no ill intent. And it clearly slipped by EVERYONE's noses. Don't turn this into an unnecessary witch hunt.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm pretty sure you've said Revan at some point.Ulic and Kun?
Fair enough though; I guess there's at least enough chance for these guys to be better that its best not to rule out with just one now-debunked quote.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Well one, "completely and utterly embracing the Force," is Oneness in the only sense. Second, Marek went into Oneness and sacrificed himself because it was the only way to save his friends. To pretend he can defeat Sidious with all evidence, including TFU II, to the contrary just seems silly. Marek obviously isn't normally on Sidious' level of power.
?? We're talking about different things. As I said, when Galen catches Sidious's lightning, he is not yet in that "Oneness" moment which only happens when he does his suicide blast. And nobody is arguing that he's actually on Palpatine's level - he doesn't have to be since Arcann isn't either. But catching his lightning and then making him struggle unsuccessfully to overpower him for like thirty seconds while he winces in pain is more impressive than anything Arcann's ever done, even if you ignore Galen's environmental feats (which are obviously far better).
Originally posted by The Ellimist
?? We're talking about different things. As I said, when Galen catches Sidious's lightning, he is not yet in that "Oneness" moment which only happens when he does his suicide blast.
And nobody is arguing that he's actually on Palpatine's level - he doesn't have to be since Arcann isn't either. But catching his lightning and then making him struggle unsuccessfully to overpower him for like thirty seconds while he winces in pain is more impressive than anything Arcann's ever done,
even if you ignore Galen's environmental feats (which are obviously far better)
Originally posted by The Ellimist
?? We're talking about different things. As I said, when Galen catches Sidious's lightning, he is not yet in that "Oneness" moment which only happens when he does his suicide blast. And nobody is arguing that he's actually on Palpatine's level - he doesn't have to be since Arcann isn't either. But catching his lightning and then making him struggle unsuccessfully to overpower him for like thirty seconds while he winces in pain is more impressive than anything Arcann's ever done, even if you ignore Galen's environmental feats (which are obviously far better).
Galen Marek was very close to Palpatine, and this closeness provided the former an opportunity to close the gap such that Palpatine would get a taste of his own medicine.
There was substantial gap between Arcann and Valkorion however and the former fared much better than Revan (Reborn) against Valkorion's power when in the same shoes. Revan (Reborn) > Galen and Arcann scales from Revan.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Unless Marek is close to Palpatine, and yet someone how didn't surpass him in the growth his clone has after TFU, this doesn't make sense contextually. Regardless of how you word it, you're going for some sort of parity that couldn't be met even when going into Oneness, which doesn't make sense. There would be no need for a suicide blast if that were the case. He doesn't decide to blow himself up and then go into Oneness, rather he goes into Oneness and realizes death is the only way to save his friends.
Are you suggesting that the feat isn't real? Clearly it's easier to defend against Palpatine's lightning than damage him with your own attack. That doesn't mean that what happened didn't happen.