Surfer or Mjlonir

Originally posted by leonidas
i've argued that same stance in the past. i've always thought they were in some weird other place as well, or shielded, or....something. /shrug

He did return to the sun's core when his business with Thor concluded.

I think we should create a classic Thor care package and mail it to Aaron.

Surfer got Skullphucked by the hammer.

Originally posted by "Id"
A significantly more powerful future Surfer got Skullphucked by the hammer.

It seems pretty clear that Thor is in a sun with Gorr, and that he is burnt by the sun in Uncanny Avengers.

Comics are inconsistent like that 🙂

https://imgur.com/a/G7Qh4

Originally posted by operator616
https://imgur.com/a/G7Qh4

So, off the top of my mind Mjolnir has been used against heat and sun stuff along that nature:
To capture the Mother Storm who could snuff out suns
It burned out a sun forging it
It went into the sun against Gorr
The Atum fight
It was taking blasts from Phoenix when its heat was felt galaxies away
To enter the sun and kill the Builder
To turn a supernova comet back into a sun

And then you have all the "heat of a thousand cocks" shit along with big bang whatever shit. Plus the Twilight Sword and however hot Mephisto's hell is. Glory and Firelord's fire. It also releases lightning all the time and released a Mother Storm from the hammer that should have been pretty hot with all the giant lightning and shit. Anti Twilight also got burned off of Mjolnir when he stabbed Surtur in Everything Burns.

It would seem odd if a sun destroyed Mjolnir to me. Not saying he isn't going to write it, but it wouldn't be the greatest thing.

Originally posted by operator616
https://imgur.com/a/G7Qh4

Why you didn't include the page in which Thor gets pimpslapped?

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I was waiting until someone posted this.

So, off the top of my mind Mjolnir has been used against heat and sun stuff along that nature:
To capture the Mother Storm who could snuff out suns

This is hilarious.

Oh bran.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Are you the same person who is blaming abhi for ignoring context?

This is hilarious.

Oh bran.

Explain in any case.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Why are you white knighting abhi because I may have made one mistake?

Explain in any case.

The difference is, you'll have celeyfag and rage of cock holsters stroke you.

The Mother Storm was vastly weakened by her fight with Odin when she was deposited inside Mjolnir:
https://i.imgur.com/LK879ks.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Tvas8Jp.jpg

She was sealed within by using magics that not even Odin could name:
https://i.imgur.com/7OfHa4F.jpg

To portray this as Mjolnir's durability is stupid as shit. I have no doubt you'll continue doing so!

Furthermore, you don't seem to understand how this 'passing through suns' stuff works, but you'll thumbs up operator anyway, because you think it proves your point.

Do you smoke? Do you have a lighter at hand?

Any one will do.

Light it up.

Pass your finger through the fire, really fast.

Did your skin melt off? No? Ok.

Now hold your finger for 60 seconds.

Did you skin melt off? Oh, what's that, now you can't type on the keyboard?

Well, bran, that's the difference between Mjolnir passing through the sun, and Mjolnir (along with Mangog) staying inside the sun.

They're...not the same thing.

Doing one doesn't contradict the other.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I was waiting until someone posted this.

So, off the top of my mind Mjolnir has been used against heat and sun stuff along that nature:
To capture the Mother Storm who could snuff out suns
It burned out a sun forging it
It went into the sun against Gorr
The Atum fight
It was taking blasts from Phoenix when its heat was felt galaxies away
To enter the sun and kill the Builder
To turn a supernova comet back into a sun

And then you have all the "heat of a thousand cocks" shit along with big bang whatever shit. Plus the Twilight Sword and however hot Mephisto's hell is. Glory and Firelord's fire. It also releases lightning all the time and released a Mother Storm from the hammer that should have been pretty hot with all the giant lightning and shit. Anti Twilight also got burned off of Mjolnir when he stabbed Surtur in Everything Burns.

It would seem odd if a sun destroyed Mjolnir to me. Not saying he isn't going to write it, but it wouldn't be the greatest thing.

Tbh the "thousand suns" statements -- those particularly i don't really put much weight in. I recall heimdall striking thor with the power of "countless suns", or thor weakening surtur with the power of thousand suns or some such. Statements of that sort are similar to sentry's million exploding suns. They're just too extraordinary to believe. For instance, mjolnir having the power of a star (lorn bolt) is believable, but those statements with "thousands of suns bla bla bla" are a bit too much.

good list though. I also believe that thor reignited a sun when he absorbed the null bomb no?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Why you didn't include the page in which Thor gets pimpslapped?

😂

it would have ruined his moment of glory.

Originally posted by operator616
I also believe that thor reignited a sun when he absorbed the null bomb no?

Originally posted by Philosophía
You're doing the same thing you accuse him of doing, which is purposely ignoring context to make feats sound better.

The difference is, you'll have celeyfag and rage of cock holsters stroke you.

The Mother Storm was vastly weakened by her fight with Odin when she was deposited inside Mjolnir:
https://i.imgur.com/LK879ks.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Tvas8Jp.jpg

She was sealed within by using magics that not even Odin could name:
https://i.imgur.com/7OfHa4F.jpg

To portray this as Mjolnir's durability is stupid as shit. I have no doubt you'll continue doing so!

Furthermore, you don't seem to understand how this 'passing through suns' stuff works, but you'll thumbs up operator anyway, because you think it proves your point.

Do you smoke? Do you have a lighter at hand?

Any one will do.

Light it up.

Pass your finger through the fire, really fast.

Did your skin melt off? No? Ok.

Now hold your finger for 60 seconds.

Did you skin melt off? Oh, what's that, now you can't type on the keyboard?

Well, bran, that's the difference between Mjolnir passing through the sun, and Mjolnir (along with Mangog) staying inside the sun.

They're...not the same thing.

Doing one doesn't contradict the other.

The context doesn't make it any less though. The hammer still contained it. The forging of the Uru made the Uru out to be that durable as well. And the Storm was still raging inside it the whole time, which apparently grew in time or stayed the same level. Either way.
The Storm was still powerful enough to stretch galaxy to galaxy and turn a supernova comet back into a sun.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11131/111314606/5742555-7890160695-57425.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11131/111314606/5742554-5442054802-57425.jpg

As well as this:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-diryoZj8LYg/WRxdkhVXPvI/AAAAAAADvvE/mR5sw5ikBCot3X3wZYb_ZSD95sNNLavvQCLcB/s1600/034_008.jpg

Which indicates that the Storm was still powerful enough to snuff out suns if it so wanted to. Note how I didn't say galaxy sized storm in the post you quoted. 🙂

Also the magics allowed it to be trapped, we don't know how or if it protects the Uru, which is something lacking from your indisputable truth. Considering the lightning still comes out of it, and will still hit Mjolnir, you would assume Mjolnir is still encountering these forces.

Your second half is a huge straw man.
I'm saying if the sun destroys it, it will be weird. We don't know what prolonged exposure to the sun can or will do, we just know what has happened in the past. I'm using them to say it shouldn't happen based on prior showings. I'm not talking of prolonged exposure for however long it would theoretically take to break it. Especially when Thor outright says Jane killed the hammer the second she threw it into the sun.

All we can do to say it shouldn't happen is base it on prior showings. We don't have the evidence to say it would break down or wouldn't over a long period of time because it hasn't happened.

If it does happen, and it's attributed to prolonged exposure, there's the one piece of evidence.

Originally posted by operator616
Tbh the "thousand suns" statements -- those particularly i don't really put much weight in. I recall heimdall striking thor with the power of "countless suns", or thor weakening surtur with the power of thousand suns or some such. Statements of that sort are similar to sentry's million exploding suns. They're just too extraordinary to believe. For instance, mjolnir having the power of a star (lorn bolt) is believable, but those statements with "thousands of suns bla bla bla" are a bit too much.

good list though. I also believe that thor reignited a sun when he absorbed the null bomb no?

😂

it would have ruined his moment of glory.

I vaguely remember the null bomb though. You're going to have to refresh me on these.

Originally posted by Philosophía
The Mother Storm was vastly weakened by her fight with Odin when she was deposited inside Mjolnir:
https://i.imgur.com/LK879ks.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Tvas8Jp.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Tvas8Jp.jpg

"Yet even the mightiest of storms must eventually grow tired. And when the All-father could sense his opponent weakening."

Weakning = vastly weakened

Your statement implies it was somehow noticeably depowered. Stop being a deceitful **********. Or just being stupid. The next issue:

Mjolnir releases the Mother Storm, the lightning generated just by it's awakening stretched from one galaxy to the other. It completely engulfed a bursting Supernova and turned it back into a Star.

The keeper of the Omniversal library instantly recognizes it as the Mother Storm due to it's sheer size. Even if the Mother Storm was somehow diminished (The librarian thought it impossible for a Storm to survive for so long, but clearly he was wrong), it's still not far off from where it originally was.

Originally posted by Philosophía
To portray this as Mjolnir's durability is stupid as shit. I have no doubt you'll continue doing so!

No, this statement is as stupid as shit and clearly reveals a lack of common sense. The entire comic consistently touched upon the durability of Uru. The opening scene, not tweaks the origins of Uru, it establishes it as a remnant of the dawn of creation to make it's durability even more impressive:

What could be the point of adding another layer to the origin of Uru, and making it even more impressive than it was before?
mhmm

The Mother Storm was sealed in Uru in part, because it's what Odin had handy, but also, because it's one of the few things that could actually contain it. So yes, it is a statement of it's durability.

Dumbass.

well, again, i wouldn't be surprised if it did meet its end in a star. that IS what allowed it to be forged:

https://imgur.com/a/gUlNc

a star was the source of heat in the furnace, but it resisted being shaped until the end. it seemed to suffer the heat without melting for at least 17 days--even after 17 days it seems it was still resisting being forged. so how long would it need to be in there before it finally melted? who knows. and to me it seems like melting it would do nothing more than set mother storm free... /shrug

i do not really think it would be a great end to the hammer though, obviously. and i'm still not convinced--by any stretch--that it WILL actually prove to be destroyed.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
You must really like abhi. You insult me anytime you think you can even compare me to him. Does he send you dick pics or something?

The context doesn't make it any less though. The hammer still contained it.

You omitted context which explicitly says that the storm is trapped inside the uru through dark and primal magic that not even Odin could say. That's not a physical durability feat for Mjolnir. You presented it as such. You keep presenting it as such, when it's said directly that unknown magic was used to trap her there.

You mislead people by not posting the full context.

You can't even own up to that shit.

After you do..

Mjolnir/Mother Storm using their abilities is now proof that Mjolnir can survive inside the sun?

What's next, every time Iron Man sends a repulsor beam it means that he can take it without flinching?

You're going full moron, here. Stop.

Your second half is a huge straw man.
I'm saying if the sun destroys it, it will be weird.

You just used operator's example, of Mjolnir passing through the sun at faster than light, to say that it would make it weird if Mjolnir sitting in the sun is destroyed.

You're wrong. That's not how it works.

Are we going to stay pages on-end until you admit you were wrong on both of these points, or can we move on?

I thought a lighter example would be easy enough.

And show you other things, like for example the Sun is not solely about heat!

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Yeah, I was just adding the hyperbole because I know others enjoy it. Lorn bolt is a good one though. I was trying to think of big lightning attacks. I don't remember if that came from his hammer or not though.

I vaguely remember the null bomb though. You're going to have to refresh me on these.

The Celestial's null bomb was about to destroy the Black Galaxy. Thor absorbed the energy, and channeled it into a dying Star.

Mjolnir can not just absorb, channel and redirect ridiculous amounts of energy, it can also Store it for ridiculous lengths of time.

For the record, Remender (The writer of Uncanny) and Aaron worked very closely together during this period because of the Apocalypse fight, and the origins of Thor's axe.

Originally posted by leonidas
well, again, i wouldn't be surprised if it did meet its end in a star. that IS what allowed it to be forged:

https://imgur.com/a/gUlNc

a star was the source of heat in the furnace, but it resisted being shaped until the end. it seemed to suffer the heat without melting for at least 17 days--even after 17 days it seems it was still resisting being forged. so how long would it need to be in there before it finally melted? who knows. and to me it seems like melting it would do nothing more than set mother storm free... /shrug

i do not really think it would be a great end to the hammer though, obviously. and i'm still not convinced--by any stretch--that it WILL actually prove to be destroyed.

I believe we DO see the Mother Storm being freed in the last panel here:
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/38032646/The_Mighty_Thor_2015-_705-017.jpg.html#

Right before Thor says she killed Mjolnir:
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/38032647/The_Mighty_Thor_2015-_705-018.jpg.html

Either that, or the "KRAKOOOOOM" is of Mjolnir being destroyed. But the storm effect with wind/lightning seems too much of a coincidence.

Incidentally, the same sound effect was used when Jane asked for the Mother Storm's assistance in the supernova scene that Bran posted:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11131/111314606/5742555-7890160695-57425.jpg