That doesn't prove anything. You are wasting your time.
1. You didn't get around point #3
2. It's PIS as Superman has ftl perceptions.
And reflexes are not skills. It's speed.
Human Skillful fighters are faster than non skillful ones in perception speed because they trained to be.
Two characters with equal stats implies equal perception speeds.
Originally posted by h1a8
That doesn't prove anything. You are wasting your time.1. You didn't get around point #3
2. It's PIS as Superman has ftl perceptions.And reflexes are not skills. It's speed.
Human Skillful fighters are faster than non skillful ones in perception speed because they trained to be.
Two characters with equal stats implies equal perception speeds.
Superman's combat feats debunk your fan-fictive version as a whole.
There is nothing to attack because the points that you are bringing doesn't exist. 👆
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Superman's combat feats debunk your fan-fictive version as a whole.There is nothing to attack because the points that you are bringing doesn't exist. 👆
Correct! And he has combat feats that exceed the PIS ones you are trying to show. That's why point 3 destroys this. In a forum Superman has super fast perceptions. Posting scans where he doesn't is just posting PIS showings.
You basically showed lack of reflexes and perception. Not lack of skill.
Originally posted by h1a8
Correct! And he has combat feats that exceed the PIS ones you are trying to show. That's why point 3 destroys this. In a forum Superman has super fast perceptions. Posting scans where he doesn't is just posting PIS showings.You basically showed lack of reflexes and perception. Not lack of skill.
They aren't PIS.
Superman's whole career make him an unskilled punching bag.
It's just you whom has poor reading comprehension skills. 👆
Insanity. Wonder Woman/Thor types would be B or B- fighters. Cyclops, Punisher etc are B+ or A-. Batman, Wolverine, Captain America etc. are A list.
Superman is a C list fighter. There's enough doubt that there that when rendered powerless, if a writer has him get his ass kicked, no body would bat an eye. There are also comics where he displays skills and references he was taught by Batman and Wonder Woman. That's what makes him C list, not D.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Insanity. Wonder Woman/Thor types would be B or B- fighters. Cyclops, Punisher etc are B+ or A-. Batman, Wolverine, Captain America etc. are A list.
Wonder Woman is easily more skilled than Thor. So is Superman.
Superman is a C list fighter. There's enough doubt that there that when rendered powerless, if a writer has him get his ass kicked, no body would bat an eye. There are also comics where he displays skills and references he was taught by Batman and Wonder Woman. That's what makes him C list, not D.
Yeah right. Superman has beaten down skilled fighters among even kryptoninan who are stated to be equals or even better than himself in powers.
He is easily B level in skills, able to fight Zod, Non and Ursa at the same time, able to get upper hand on Zod with his skills alone, beats down Wraith who chumped Diana, beats down Phantom King who was stated to be equal to him by skills.
Heck he has repeatedly matched Orion in fights, the dog of war himself.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Insanity. Wonder Woman/Thor types would be B or B- fighters. Cyclops, Punisher etc are B+ or A-. Batman, Wolverine, Captain America etc. are A list.Superman is a C list fighter. There's enough doubt that there that when rendered powerless, if a writer has him get his ass kicked, no body would bat an eye. There are also comics where he displays skills and references he was taught by Batman and Wonder Woman. That's what makes him C list, not D.
Supermans record s easily on par with Thor who is on par with Diana. Marvel fanboy bias preferences isn't an argument.
Superman is on par with Thor in skill like Martian Manhunter is on par with Superman in power. Possible, but highly f*cking unlikely.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Wonder Woman is easily more skilled than Thor. So is Superman.Yeah right. Superman has beaten down skilled fighters among even kryptoninan who are stated to be equals or even better than himself in powers.
He is easily B level in skills, able to fight Zod, Non and Ursa at the same time, able to get upper hand on Zod with his skills alone, beats down Wraith who chumped Diana, beats down Phantom King who was stated to be equal to him by skills.
Heck he has repeatedly matched Orion in fights, the dog of war himself.
Superman is easily more skilled than Thor in h2h...Top 5 dumbest things you've said.
I don't even know what your disagreement is. You saw Thor above Superman and it triggered you? How is Superman B level in skill. It would require him being competitive with people like Punisher, Winter Soldier, Tim Drake etc which is utterly retarded. If you disagree, I'll make the vs. threads. 🙂
You think Superman is much more skilled than Thor? Fine, knock Thor down to C list. That makes way more sense than putting Superman in b list in terms of skill. Utterly idiotic and ignores any common sense. Even when he utilizes his superior skills, he acknowledges and references that he learned from fighters of another caliber.