Originally posted by Surtur
I don't think you're lying. If I did I could easily ask you to post what you PM them, couldn't I?I think it's a cop out. You lecture them in private where nobody else can weigh in.
What you think is a copout is actually a forum rule. You take personal disputes to PMs. Now personally I don't PM people I am not friends with. And why should anyone else need to weigh in on a personal disagreement? It's got nothing to do with anyone else. Your logic escapes me here Surt.
Originally posted by SquallX
Take this shit else where!This thread is not for a dick measuring contest, but for proper and respectful dialogues between people of ideas.
That was what I was trying to do.. but my confusion turned to anger at the constant deflection.... Sorry for the thread derailment.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
That was what I was trying to do.. but my confusion turned to anger at the constant deflection.... Sorry for the thread derailment.
It’s all good. I just think we sometimes let our passions for something ruined good open dialogues.
I myself have fallen in that trap sometimes.
Originally posted by Nephthys
A 21 age restriction, background checks, mental health restrictions, ammunition control, the equivalent of a driving test and license in order to own a gun, a ban on semi-automatics, a ban on 3d printing guns, storing a gun and ammunition separately and probably more.
It's something that I've only recently thought about and I foresee it becoming a problem in the future. It's why I think the way forward may be to control ammunition instead since you can't 3d print gunpowder. It should still be illegal to 3d print something as dangerous as a gun though.
3d printing in general will likely have to be seriously looked at since it seems like it'd lead to a lot of these kinds of problems.
I actually wouldn't disagree that it shouldn't be legal to 3D print a gun, that does seem like something seriously difficult to actually regulate though. If someone's 3D printing a gun on their private property behind closed doors for example, how would you catch them in the act with that? From what I've heard before there's actually another thing aside from ammunition that you can't really print, and that's the firing pin. Apparently you can 3D print the firing pin, but it fails after a handful of shots.
There's actually a lot of things with the advancement of technology that are quite terrifying. Take the development of AI for example, if the AI doesn't decide to kill us, if we can actually keep it under control then what sort of people are going to be the ones in control of it? Even the scenario where humans can control AI is still quite horrifying when you think about it, and that kinda makes me think that humans playing with AI is like letting a drunk 4 year old play with a box of hand grenades at a gas station lol.
If not 3d printing you can fabricate your own gun through backyard forging if you really wanted. The point is you can't uninvent technology, so trying to implement this "book burning" to cover up the fact that people in the 21st century have some serious psychological issues is holding back society.
The ammo regulation idea sounds the most pragmatic at this point. You can't make gunpowder at home (well, unless you're a chemist, but even then you'll find the NSA at your door if you try to order too much ammonium nitrate lol.)
Let me take this moment to appreciate the fact that my professor has admitted to cooking crystal meth in his lab for "scientific purposes". Being a chem major is so much fun.
Originally posted by Nephthys
A 21 age restriction, background checks, mental health restrictions, ammunition control, the equivalent of a driving test and license in order to own a gun, a ban on semi-automatics, a ban on 3d printing guns, storing a gun and ammunition separately and probably more.
Do not forget mandatory gun registration and insurance.
Everything being proposed has a better chance of being implemented and enforced at the state level. There are too many rural states that would block any sort of legislation from being implemented in a timely manner at the Federal level. If you're serious about this, start with local politics.
But yeah I agree with registration. Like I have to register my drone like it's some f*cking aircraft but anyone can purchase a firearm.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Like a fool I assumed that mandatory registration was already a thing. Yeesh.
Why would you assume this? Do you know anything at all about our 2nd amendment? Why we have it?
This is a serious question. You can disagree with the reasons the people who support it give, but if you were aware of them you would see how silly it is to assume mandatory registration.
Let me help you out: if one reason for the 2a is to protect from a government going all tyrannical, why would anyone want to..register their firearms with the government?
Originally posted by Kurk
Everything being proposed has a better chance of being implemented and enforced at the state level. There are too many rural states that would block any sort of legislation from being implemented in a timely manner at the Federal level. If you're serious about this, start with local politics.But yeah I agree with registration. Like I have to register my drone like it's some f*cking aircraft but anyone can purchase a firearm.
^ Peeping Tom here.
Originally posted by SurturDo 2nd ammenders really still buy the anti-tyrannical government bullcrap? Do they really believe that a bunch of middle-aged, pot-bellied Caucasian men with semi-automatic rifles pose any sort of threat to a national government with chemical, nuclear, SCAR missles, etc weapons at its disposal?
Why would you assume this? Do you know anything at all about our 2nd amendment? Why we have it?This is a serious question. You can disagree with the reasons the people who support it give, but if you were aware of them you would see how silly it is to assume mandatory registration.
Let me help you out: if one reason for the 2a is to protect from a government going all tyrannical, why would anyone want to..register their firearms with the government?
The only thing I can think of is the time a bunch of hicks seized some post in Washington state or something like 3 years ago (remind me what happened).
Originally posted by Surtur
Why would you assume this? Do you know anything at all about our 2nd amendment? Why we have it?This is a serious question. You can disagree with the reasons the people who support it give, but if you were aware of them you would see how silly it is to assume mandatory registration.
Let me help you out: if one reason for the 2a is to protect from a government going all tyrannical, why would anyone want to..register their firearms with the government?
Where in the 2nd does it say people are free from registering their guns?
We have to register to vote and the right to vote appears more times in the Constitution than gun rights, sport.