Callout to JBL: Superman's Dynamic Factor/Above Top Tier Power

Originally posted by abhilegend
So if his strength is set in stone, he shouldn't be able to lower it too, right?

Also sundip is just taking more of the radiation which already powers him. When Hulk gets stronger he does by taking more gamma radiation from the extra dimensional source he gets his powers from.

If Superman's strength was set in stone, nothing he could do to increase it.

Unless he doesn't has a set strength and it depends on his mental state and the amount of radiation he absorbs.

Originally posted by panthergod
lmaoo..

so nothing, then?

This is how pathetic you are?

pssst.. Hulk is stronger than Superman.

Diana NEVER fought a Superman as powerful as he is now, nor as she fought Superman is Doomsday shattering mode.. Stop it.. you're embarrassing yourself boy.

Now Rampage may be shown to be stronger... AND THAT WOULDNT CHANGE A THING about my argument in the least.

Zeus was shown to be superior to Hulk.. guess that means that Hulk doesnt have dynamic strength, right you f*cking idiot?

😂

Originally posted by JBL
You moron. If superman goes from being a weak punk to fighting like a man, that's NOT dynamic strength idiot.

..If Superman goes from one level of strength to another, that's dynamic strength...period.

Nothing you're whining about now changes that retard.

He just use his full set in stone strength idiot.

If I fight my 12 year old daughter and hold back then you come along running your big mouth and I knock you out, that is NOT dynamic strength. But you superman loving idiots would see me as having dynamic strength just because I went from struggling with a 12 year old to knocking out a grown idiot man with a 2 year old child brain.

So at this point you're just flaying around, grasping at straws for reason why your poor reading skills make comic book stories written for adolescents so far beyond your embarrassing reading comprehension. I bet your "daughter" has to read you a bedtime story.

And no, kid, you're weak attempts at being an e-tough guy arent intimidating anyone. you are an idiot of the highest order and it's been a pleasure to humiliate you. 😂

Originally posted by JBL
Gladiator has dynamic strength not superman. That's the difference between them. Gladiator was born with his powers and then went through the gladiator process to boost his powers and strength whereas superman had to be under a yellow sun on earth to get his powers. Totally different.

But I like how Gladiator NOW gets credit for dynamic strength when superman fans claimed he didn't to protect Superman. Shall I have the responses put up for everyone to see how desperate superman fans will become for superman?

.. And here we have it. You admitting that Every statement you made in this thread about Superman to be a deliberate lie.

Gladiator's powerset is a ripoff of Superman's. That's literally the whole point of the character's existence since Byrne used him to prototype the psionic aspect for his Marvel version of Superman in FF which became Post Crisis Superman(Marvel was going to buy DC in the 80s) .

There's no way Gladiator has dynamic strength according to you, but Superman doesn't. literally impossible.

Superman's powerset is MORE dynamic than Gladiator's. Gladiator has never been above Elite top tier at peak confidence, where Superman's range of power due to his DYNAMIC factor can literally go from human level to Elite top tier Class 100 to physically overpowering Skyfather's and outmuscling 2-3 Gladiator level beings at once.

You're even more of a hypocritical retard than I thought. But thanks for exposing yourself. Fool.

Originally posted by panthergod
..If Superman goes from one level of strength to another, that's dynamic strength...period.

Nothing you're whining about now changes that retard.

Already debunked.

There is no set in stone strength for Superman. There's the level he is operating at at a given time, subject to change due to his mindset. Period.

So at this point you're just flaying around, grasping at straws for reason why your poor reading skills make comic book stories written for adolescents so far beyond your embarrassing reading comprehension. I bet your "daughter" has to read you a bedtime story.

And no, kid, you're weak attempts at being an e-tough guy arent intimidating anyone. you are an idiot of the highest order and it's been a pleasure to humiliate you. 😂

'Set in stone strength', eh you mindless mental midget:

Again: the creator of the Post Crisis Superman:

Superman's powers require a full, active mind to drive them -- look at his strength not increasing at all, eh you sh*t for brains?

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You're a liar and an idiot JBL. Your 'daughter" will be ashamed of your stupidity.

Originally posted by panthergod
'Set in stone strength', eh you mindless mental midget:

Again: the creator of the Post Crisis Superman:

Superman's powers require a full, active mind to drive them -- look at his strength not increasing at all, eh you sh*t for brains?

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You're a liar and an idiot JBL. Your 'daughter" will be ashamed of your stupidity.

Originally posted by JBL
[B]If superman goes from using less strength to using his full strength, that's NOT dynamic strength you uneducated moron.

Flautuating your strength by a factor of MILLIONS is dynamic strength.

Period.

Even IF you were correct about him having a concrete limit -- which you arent, his power levels are constantly evolving and he can take in more energy due to his mental state:

-- Even if you WERE correct abou his having a concrete upper limit, that is IRRELEVANT.

He can change his bodies physical density on a sub atomic level from human level to withstanding nukes to withstanding supernovas due to his mental control of his power-level ALONE.

Hell, under Mongul, he literally gave himself NEW powers like Freeze Breath. He no longer needed to breathe. And was consistently FTL.

Post IC due to his DYNAMIC factor he restores his super-intelligence.

Buy yeah, multiplying your strength level by a factor of Millions or billions definitely isnt dynamic. lmaooo.

Originally posted by panthergod
Flautuating your strength by a factor of MILLIONS is dynamic strength.

Period.

Even IF you were correct about him having a concrete limit -- which you arent, his power levels are constantly evolving and he can take in more energy due to his mental state:

-- Even if you WERE correct abou his having a concrete upper limit, that is IRRELEVANT.

He can change his bodies physical density on a sub atomic level from human level to withstanding nukes to withstanding supernovas due to his mental control of his power-level ALONE.

Hell, under Mongul, he literally gave himself NEW powers like Freeze Breath. He no longer needed to breathe. And was consistently FTL.

Post IC due to his DYNAMIC factor he restores his super-intelligence.

Buy yeah, multiplying your strength level by a factor of Millions or billions definitely isnt dynamic. lmaooo.

Originally posted by JBL
FALSE. In order for superman to absorb more sunlight to get stronger, he has to fly to the sun, Now do hulk jump into that dimension? And please don't embarrass yourself and others by bringing up that statement about superman absorbing more sunlight under stress. I'll destroy it in a flash.

How will you destroy it? By your trolling?

I will eagerly await your idiotic response on this.

Originally posted by JBL
Show us all where Superman multiplied his strength by a factor of millions or billions or never post again because we will all know you are a pathetic liar if you don't. Scans please.

They're all over the first and second pages, mental midget.

Embarrass yourself by proving how stupid you are some more, though.

Even at Byrne level Superman could lift millions/billions of tons. humans can't lift a ton. due to his mental state, Superman went from human level to Class 100 level - a factor of MILLIONS.

Hell, Even as a young child Byrne Superman's durability fluctuated from human level to superhuman when he was being trampled by a bull.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So if Superman's strength is set in stone as you said, how does it increase when going to the sun?

How will you destroy it? By your trolling?

I will eagerly await your idiotic response on this.

Originally posted by JBL
Because just like a battery that is 12 amps but then someone puts it on a battery charger it goes up. That battery cannot boost itself without that amp just like superman CANNOT amp himself on earth. He has to sundip and just like that battery, remove the cables it wears off. So does supermans sunamp.

..so just ouright lies,? That's all you have?

Originally posted by panthergod
They're all over the first and second pages, mental midget.

Embarrass yourself by proving how stupid you are some more, though.

Even at Byrne level Superman could lift millions/billions of tons. humans can't lift a ton. due to his mental state, Superman went from human level to Class 100 level - a factor of MILLIONS.

Hell, Even as a young child Byrne Superman's durability fluctuated from human level to superhuman when he was being trampled by a bull.

Originally posted by JBL
So superman going from HUMAN level to class 100 is dynamic strength? I don't know what to say. No one can be this stupid. No one.

Due to his mind? absolutely.

And you already conceded this, when you showed you were willing to call the EXACT same ability for Gladiator 'dynamic' but not for Superman, when Superman's power levels have a FAR greater range.

Oh, BTW, Gladiator is powered by ambient cosmic energy i.e. stellar radiation ie starlight. Quasar #54. Cry more hypocrite.

Originally posted by JBL
Because just like a battery that is 12 amps but then someone puts it on a battery charger it goes up. That battery cannot boost itself without that amp just like superman CANNOT amp himself on earth. He has to sundip and just like that battery, remove the cables it wears off. So does supermans sunamp.

Either you think Superman is always underpowered and only gets at full power when he sundips or he gets more powerful than he already is and thus his strength can't be set in stone.

Chose one. Or concede.

Hey abhi should we educate this idiot about Imperiex Probes, OWAW, and Superman's relative stat/power insrease in relation to Darkseid, whoc specifically stated that he had 'GROWN STRONG'?

Originally posted by panthergod
Due to his mind? absolutely.

And you already conceded this, when you showed you were willing to call the EXACT same ability for Gladiator 'dynamic' but not for Superman, when Superman's power levels have a FAR greater range.

Oh, BTW, Gladiator is powered by ambient cosmic energy i.e. stellar radiation ie starlight. Quasar #54. Cry more hypocrite.

Originally posted by panthergod
.. Uh.. No, irrelevant BS. the origins of the abilties are irrelevant.

Gladiatror's entire existence is a Superman ripoff in every way.

This is laughable.

.. And here we have it. You admitting that Every statement you made in this thread about Superman to be a deliberate lie.

Gladiator's powerset is a ripoff of Superman's. That's literally the whole point of the character's existence since Byrne used him to prototype the psionic aspect for his Marvel version of Superman in FF which became Post Crisis Superman(Marvel was going to buy DC in the 80s) .

There's no way Gladiator has dynamic strength according to you, but Superman doesn't. literally impossible.

Superman's powerset is MORE dynamic than Gladiator's. Gladiator has never been above Elite top tier at peak confidence, where Superman's range of power due to his DYNAMIC factor can literally go from human level to Elite top tier Class 100 to physically overpowering Skyfather's and outmuscling 2-3 Gladiator level beings at once.

You're even more of a hypocritical retard than I thought. But thanks for exposing yourself. Fool.

When did he outmuscle 2-3 Gladiator level beings/

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
When did he outmuscle 2-3 Gladiator level beings/

War of the Supermen storyline.

I was being generous to Gladiator, as name Elite Kryptonians like Ursa and definitely Non are WELL above Gladiator in strength. Superman directly physically overpowered and outmuscles both of them simultaneously, twice.

Hell, 16 year old Kryptonians like post-Birthright Supergirl can 2-3 shot dominate a base-level Elite top tier Class 100(at minimum) level Superman and 2 shot KO'd Ultraman. Ursa specifically overpowered her in that same story.

Superman literally directly overpowered 5 adult male Kryptonian soldiers simultaneously with a single limb to two of their arms each. All New Kryptonians were defined as being the most powerful beings on Earth, on a par with 'Superman level' i.e. a generic term for Elite top tier in DC. Supergirl, previously established as being above base level Superman, was equal to another 16 year old New Kryptonian

Hell, Superman was also outmucling multiple time displaced versions of Gog II, where a single one teamwrecked the JSA, including Earth 22(psuedo Kingdom Come) Superman, and he also fought Source Amped Infinity Man to a stalemate.