Immortal Hulk vs Silver Surfer.

Started by carver96 pages
Originally posted by $on OF krypton
the hulk MIGHT surpass surfer in strength but certainly ss is more powerful(energy draining or not) surfer wins

Why is Surfer more powerful?

Originally posted by carver9
Why is Surfer more powerful?
Killing Gladiator
Stalemating Mangog
Killing Galactus
Shitting on Maestro
Overpowering 2 Thanoses
Making Hulk hurt his hands punching him
Becoming a sun
Killing Thor
Stalemated the Phoenix

Originally posted by leonidas
again, wtf r u talking about?

i did forget that maestro scene was from battleworld, but you are, as normal, focusing on only the things you WANT to see.... the main point wasn't maestro, it was power drain. i also have no idea if that ss was portrayed any different from the regular one, so it may well be indicative of what would happen if they met. hence the MAY...

anyway, your stance is that yes, we assume he has evolved past ss's ability to drain? i don't believe ss has tried draining him lately, but leaving that aside, what other instances of power drain have failed, for example?

maestro may be the same, not sure about surfer though. secret wars was jumbled. we have one who recently lost to old man logan too running around.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Killing Gladiator
Stalemating Mangog
Killing Galactus
Shitting on Maestro
Overpowering 2 Thanoses
Making Hulk hurt his hands punching him
Becoming a sun
Killing Thor
Stalemated the Phoenix

That version of Surfer did all of that or are you talking about 616?

Hulk easily. The only viable Tactic Surfer had is irrelevant now.

Hulk has always been more powerful than Surfer in raw innate power.

Originally posted by carver9
That version of Surfer did all of that or are you talking about 616?
I think it's pretty clear what I'm saying

so where are all the energy-drain resist feats hulk has carv that allow us to assume ss couldn't just do this again:

https://imgur.com/a/OnmiY

or like this:

http://i.imgur.com/TIxeaG4.jpg

he could have simply killed that version, but didn't of course. he handled that version of hulk easily in that issue, the whole time trying to talk him down. not seeing why this would be any different. proof it would fail this time?

Why can't Surfer just do this?

http://i.imgur.com/pHhKUpb.jpg

After all, WWH, the angriest most powerful Hulk, had this done to him:

That's pretty recent, no? And is one of the more powerful incarnations of Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
Rogue tried to absorb him and failed. Surfer knows how powerful Hulk is so I'm giving Surfer the edge via bfr.

👆

http://i.imgur.com/JbpvH54.jpg

He negates gravity and the Hulk floats off into space.

Originally posted by leonidas
also his showing against maestro may argue against hulk here...

Alternate Surfer, alternate Hulk... so no.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why can't Surfer just do this?

http://i.imgur.com/pHhKUpb.jpg

After all, WWH, the angriest most powerful Hulk, had this done to him:

That's pretty recent, no? And is one of the more powerful incarnations of Hulk.

Depowered Hulk, you mean.

You're assuming Norrin can do the same?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Depowered Hulk, you mean.

You're assuming Norrin can do the same?

WWH was depowered by them tampering with his genetic structure.
Then they snapped his neck.

I posted a scan of Surfer tampering with the genetic structure of viruses - messing with cells at the molecular level.

Then he'll snap his neck.

So yes.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Alternate Surfer, alternate Hulk... so no.

dealt with, but no reason why ss can't replicate a feat he's done 3 times already, all successfully. negate gravity, turn intangible, whatever, then just drain him dry--nothing hulk can do about it 'cept fail.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
WWH was depowered by them tampering with his genetic structure.
Then they snapped his neck.

I posted a scan of Surfer tampering with the genetic structure of viruses - messing with cells at the molecular level.

Then he'll snap his neck.

So yes.

And does he even have the strength to do that?

Most of the time, he's a pussy in the stength department...

Gray was badass. Norrin is a eunuch. Any grappling / snapping / grabbing / whatever feats...?

Originally posted by leonidas
dealt with, but no reason why ss can't replicate a feat he's done 3 times already, all successfully. negate gravity, turn intangible, whatever, then just drain him dry--nothing hulk can do about it 'cept fail.

If only he fought like this in, like, 1% of his fights.

Sure, his first few encounters against the Hulk were damn near perfect. But now? He's just a silver toy. I bet I could make him my personal fuckdoll...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why can't Surfer just do this?

http://i.imgur.com/pHhKUpb.jpg

After all, WWH, the angriest most powerful Hulk, had this done to him:

That's pretty recent, no? And is one of the more powerful incarnations of Hulk.

We've discussed the context of those showings.

Originally posted by leonidas
dealt with, but no reason why ss can't replicate a feat he's done 3 times already, all successfully. negate gravity, turn intangible, whatever, then just drain him dry--nothing hulk can do about it 'cept fail.

😕

Sigh. Leo, ole Leo.

Originally posted by panthergod
Hulk easily. The only viable Tactic Surfer had is irrelevant now.

Hulk has always been more powerful than Surfer in raw innate power.

so even though surfer has always had his number Hulk is gonna win because he beat second rate Rulk?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And does he even have the strength to do that?

Most of the time, he's a pussy in the stength department...

Gray was badass. Norrin is a eunuch. Any grappling / snapping / grabbing / whatever feats...?

He's grabbed and thrown a spaceship out of the solar system, where it would have travelled for centuries:

http://i.imgur.com/qG9gKEQ.jpg

Granted, he had his will on the ship too, but you can see him actually grabbing and throwing it.

And of course, Rhino:

http://i.imgur.com/1cRTgW2.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
We've discussed the context of those showings.

What's the context?

Originally posted by carver9
Key word, IN THE PAST. Energy draining hasn't been working on Hulk as of late.
Originally posted by leonidas
what other instances of power drain have failed, for example?

Originally posted by leonidas
so where are all the energy-drain resist feats hulk has carv that allow us to assume ss couldn't just do this again:

https://imgur.com/a/OnmiY

or like this:

http://i.imgur.com/TIxeaG4.jpg

he could have simply killed that version, but didn't of course. he handled that version of hulk easily in that issue, the whole time trying to talk him down. not seeing why this would be any different. proof it would fail this time?

Originally posted by leonidas
what other instances of power drain have failed, for example?

Originally posted by carver9
😕

Sigh. Leo, ole Leo.

😂

brilliant rebuttal. now, admittedly, your bar is pretty notoriously low when it comes to arguments, but this is overachieving even by your standards. anyways, yeah, you convinced me. ss drains him like he has on 3 separate occasions, without effort. 👆