Immortal Hulk vs Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by leonidas
he hit ss and ss just kept going anyway. lol he could have killed that hulk at any time and of course could have done it at a distance and not been touched.

Is that why Hulk waded through his blasts and manhandles him?

And that was a weakened Hulk who was having problems with Mr Hyde and shit like that.

and we're focusing on the total inconsistency of her power. but i STILL haven't seen a scan of her "failing" against hulk. u gonna show it....?

ermm

Wut? Its already in the ownage thread.

i doubt parasite is a better total absorber, but that doesn't matter. if hulk can resist energy drain, he can resist energy drain. so i assume you think parasite could absorb his power then, eh? so not immune to drain, just immune to ss's drain.

Yes, Parasite is a better energy absorber by any measure.

It's about skill and potency of energy absorber. Red Hulk killed Surfer by draining him. Hulk just thunderclapped the shit out of him when he tried that on hulk.

got it. 👆

Not sure why when it comes to Surfer everyone loses their minds and start applying no limit fallacy on his powers.

So by that logic Surfer can drain and defeat World breaker Hulk too, right?

Who is the least powerful character who can resist Surfer's energy drain IYO? Can anyone?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
anhi just really hates surfer and really loves hulk

Originally posted by abhilegend
Is that why Hulk waded through his blasts and manhandles him?

And that was a weakened Hulk who was having problems with Mr Hyde and shit like that.

who cares what hulk it was. ss drained and could have killed him easily. he got hit? so? he also just realized what he was doing was going to kill hulk. not sure why you focus on meaningless issues. hulk was drained. easily. hulk could have been killed. easily.

ermm

Wut? Its already in the ownage thread.

lol cause there are hardly any pages in that thread. you and carv keep bringing it up as the ONLY source of support you have for hulk resisting energy drain. and yet, it hasn't even been shown. love to see the feat your entire premise is based on...

Yes, Parasite is a better energy absorber by any measure.

It's about skill and potency of energy absorber. Red Hulk killed Surfer by draining him. Hulk just thunderclapped the shit out of him when he tried that on hulk.

again, who cares about a thunderclap? and MAYBE parasite is better. ss is REALLY good though. so ss can't do it, but parasite, can? just like that? lol so he is NOT immune to drain. just ss's. got it. 👆

Not sure why when it comes to Surfer everyone loses their minds and start applying no limit fallacy on his powers.

hardly no limits when we've seen him drain hulk no less than 3 times and your only proof he can't do it again is rogue failing. c'mon, r u kidding here abhi?

So by that logic Surfer can drain and defeat World breaker Hulk too, right?

drain him? sure. enough to weaken and kill him? i dunno. maybe if he can avoid being killed by planet destroying thunderclaps first i guess.

Who is the least powerful character who can resist Surfer's energy drain IYO? Can anyone? [/B]

outright resist? i dunno. someone who is a better energy manipulator maybe? and that would be someone at least trans. hulk is certainly not a better energy manipulator than ss. if you claim he is, well, we'll end the discussion here.

there are different arguments that could possibly be raised regarding this issue. whether ss could or couldn't drain hulk isn't really debatable imo. in a comic would i be shocked if ss didn't win via drain? no. and i can actually think of reasons the tactic might be completely effective on this newer hulk. but they have nothing to do with hulk outright resisting ss's power.

Originally posted by leonidas
who cares what hulk it was. ss drained and could have killed him easily. he got hit? so? he also just realized what he was doing was going to kill hulk. not sure why you focus on meaningless issues. hulk was drained. easily. hulk could have been killed. easily.

SS drained but there was zero chance he could've killed Hulk or do it easily.

Hulk was drained but it has nothing to do with this version of Hulk anymore than Mr Hyde being a challenge to Hulk.

You know why, Hulk was weakened.

lol cause there are hardly any pages in that thread. you and carv keep bringing it up as the ONLY source of support you have for hulk resisting energy drain. and yet, it hasn't even been shown. love to see the feat your entire premise is based on...

Rogue drained Hulk and he overpowered Jane and Hercules right after that.

again, who cares about a thunderclap? and MAYBE parasite is better. ss is REALLY good though. so ss can't do it, but parasite, can? just like that? lol so he is NOT immune to drain. just ss's. got it. 👆

So you forgot about the part where Red Hulk drained Surfer?

How about kree starwheel which drained Surfer, Dr Strange and Namor which Hulk broke out of?

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/SavageHulkDraining10Defendersv28.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/SavageHulkDraining11.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/SavageHulkDraining12.jpg

But I like how randomly Parasite was inserted here as if Surfer is this awesome energy absorber able to drain pretty much anything.

hardly no limits when we've seen him drain hulk no less than 3 times and your only proof he can't do it again is rogue failing. c'mon, r u kidding here abhi?

No, I'm not. Hulk has evolved beyond Surfer's levels of energy draining.

Three beings and tech who have drained Surfer himself have failed against Hulk. Rulk, Kree Starwheel and Armcheddon.

drain him? sure. enough to weaken and kill him? i dunno. maybe if he can avoid being killed by planet destroying thunderclaps first i guess.

Are you suggesting Surfer can tank Hulk's hits?

outright resist? i dunno. someone who is a better energy manipulator maybe? and that would be someone at least trans. hulk is certainly not a better energy manipulator than ss. if you claim he is, well, we'll end the discussion here.

So anyone who doesn't has energy manipulation abilities gets drained by Surfer?

Hulk isn't an energy manipulator. He has far better energy drain resistance though.

there are different arguments that could possibly be raised regarding this issue. whether ss could or couldn't drain hulk isn't really debatable imo. in a comic would i be shocked if ss didn't win via drain? no. and i can actually think of reasons the tactic might be completely effective on this newer hulk. but they have nothing to do with hulk outright resisting ss's power.

No, that's why Hulk's feats of resisting better energy absorbers than Surfer comes into play.

wth are u talking about? hulk admitted ss was killing him. the only reason hulk hit him was because ss expected hulk to be healed--and the hit did nothing so was meaningless anyway. he didn't drain him anymore later because to do so would have killed him. this isn't hard abhi....

and yeah, that's the rogue scan. no wonder you guys didn't want it posted. wtf? she didn't fail. 😂 she actually ABSORBED part of his power--she turned green ffs and was trying to manage her anger! geezus h. you and carv have been trying to use a scan that shows ROGUE DRAINING HIM as proof that he can't be drained. 😐

holy f***. very sound reasoning. course that's where sh!t takes you when you jump in on carver's side. 👆

and the starwheel?? 😂 who gives a sh!t. we have definitive proof that THAT savage version of hulk can and HAS been drained by ss. it's like you're saying even in the past ss couldn't drain hulk. wth is going on abhi...?

as regards rulk: he drained uatu too. rulk had his time. then he turned to sh!t. because rulk drained watcher and surfer doesn't mean hulk is a greater energy manipulator than surfer. wtf kinda newbie a$$ abc logic is that?? i mean do you even hear yourself right now...? 😕

i'm not going to post a respect thread worth of ss absorbing energy. only hate of a character will make you or anyone deny that ss is if not the premiere energy absorber in marvel, right at the top.

as far as armageddon: he didn't drain ss--he overloaded him with power cosmic. no idea how you think that somehow means...anything to your side. and the fight was interrupted so we don't even know how it would have turned out. ss def looked ready to find out though. again, that shows nothing of relevance. the lengths you're willing to stretch this and reach for low showings is ridiculous.

still no proof of this so called resistance to energy drain (aside from, you know, rogue draining him)? the starwheel? 😂 gtfo it needs to be something current--because we KNOW ss easily drained hulk in the past. so?

you know what, i don't even care. lol i think this whole thing has been sufficiently exposed for what it is that i don't need to continue this. the reaching you're doing is giving me vertigo. no wonder carv bailed and left you to die on your hill all alone.

Lol. Shedrained him just fine.

seriously. un-fukcin-believable. 😂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. Shedrained him just fine.

So she DRAINED him?

I don't know much so I'll ask a stupid question. Can SS drain solar energy?

Yes. He nearly drained a star.

Originally posted by carver9
So she DRAINED him?

Not completely, you know better than to try and trap me. Possibly not even perceptibly. But he hasn't evolved anything to stop her.

She was stopped by the usual personality shenanigans. As seen with Moon Knight. The exact same overloading of her mind.

Same as with Juggernaut. She says here that she only absorbed a portion, and it wouldn't matter as hell be back to normal:

https://m.imgur.com/nbnWeLa

Let's ask an expert.

https://i.imgur.com/xCBMG9b_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

Surfer doesn't absorb personalities and psyches. He just drains.

Also, what context, Carver?

holy fukc, move goalposts much? the question was never how MUCH could she drain, or could she drain him dry. geezus. carver and abhi make one hell of a team in this thread. 👆

this is priceless. we have abhi using a scan of rogue draining hulk to support the fact that hulk can't be drained, and we have carver using the same scan and flat out saying he wasn't drained (all in a transparent effort to make us say she DID drain him, so that he can say a DRAINED hulk no sold herc and thor!). 😂 cue clown music.

the question was always could she/did she drain him. and of course a blind man can see she drained him ffs. on one page she looks normal. on the other she is green and fighting to control her rage. but yeah....she didn't drain him and he is clearly resistant to being drained. you've completely convinced me that ss has no chance to drain him here. 👆

she almost never drains anyone dry. she weakens people sometimes, sometimes she doesn't. sometimes she fails totally. if we're using rogue as a metric, (which i suspect will not be the case any longer lol) ss NO SOLD HER touch. not like she got some small amount of energy from him--he NO SOLD HER. magneto NO SOLD her. hulk? not so much.

guess that answers the question regarding who the better energy manipulator is.

of course, i'm the biggest idiot of all in this--i knew exactly what scan you were talking about and still wasted a couple days debating this nonsense. 😂

good luck to you guys. you were made for each other. lol

Originally posted by leonidas
wth are u talking about? hulk admitted ss was killing him. the only reason hulk hit him was because ss expected hulk to be healed--and the hit did nothing so was meaningless anyway. he didn't drain him anymore later because to do so would have killed him. this isn't hard abhi....

"SS was killing him. But that actually did not happen but let's count it as killing him. While Surfer was not harmed so it doesn't matter".

Surfer did not drain him because Hulk would be killed?

Fact is, Surfer could not drain fully even a weakened Bannerless hulk before he jumped him and punched him down.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4cTepkFgm3Q/VoTXY1PNFDI/AAAAAAAAS2I/FjH8_4hAkQA/s1600-Ic42/RCO025.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PnzVhyRoJ0o/VoTXZFHB5vI/AAAAAAAAS1w/pcEFdTE-DIw/s1600-Ic42/RCO026.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-F9q_SWPSNBs/VoTXZAUnpUI/AAAAAAAAS1w/Sntk8g0KMYw/s1600-Ic42/RCO027.jpg

How is he supposed to drain far more powerful version of the Hulk?

and yeah, that's the rogue scan. no wonder you guys didn't want it posted. wtf? she didn't fail. 😂 she actually ABSORBED part of his power--she turned green ffs and was trying to manage her anger! geezus h. you and carv have been trying to use a scan that shows ROGUE DRAINING HIM as proof that he can't be drained. 😐

Wut? She drained part of his power and got overwhelmed.

It was supposed to show just how much more powerful Hulk has become since savage Hulk days.

holy f***. very sound reasoning. course that's where sh!t takes you when you jump in on carver's side. 👆

Uh-huh. You think there is only one way of energy draining resistance? You always did lose your mind when it came to Surfer Leo. Remember Surfer being as fast as Flash?

and the starwheel?? 😂 who gives a sh!t. we have definitive proof that THAT savage version of hulk can and HAS been drained by ss. it's like you're saying even in the past ss couldn't drain hulk. wth is going on abhi...?

Right, who gives a shit about anything but Surfer's feats.

You're acting like savage Hulk has a fixed power level and is exactly as powerful as he was in 70s.

In 70s Hulk could be drained by Surfer. Nowadays even beings who drain Surfer can't drain Hulk.

as regards rulk: he drained uatu too. rulk had his time. then he turned to sh!t. because rulk drained watcher and surfer doesn't mean hulk is a greater energy manipulator than surfer. wtf kinda newbie a$$ abc logic is that?? i mean do you even hear yourself right now...? 😕

😂

That's under the same writer. Way to ignore the feats though.

Knew you would.

i'm not going to post a respect thread worth of ss absorbing energy. only hate of a character will make you or anyone deny that ss is if not the premiere energy absorber in marvel, right at the top.

No, he isn't. Quasar is flat out better. So is Rogue. So is Genis. I can show other characters as well, these are just top of my head.

as far as armageddon: he didn't drain ss--he overloaded him with power cosmic. no idea how you think that somehow means...anything to your side. and the fight was interrupted so we don't even know how it would have turned out. ss def looked ready to find out though. again, that shows nothing of relevance. the lengths you're willing to stretch this and reach for low showings is ridiculous.

He energy manipulated Surfer himself and yet was unable to do anything to Hulk.

Its not hard to understand.

still no proof of this so called resistance to energy drain (aside from, you know, rogue draining him)? the starwheel? 😂 gtfo it needs to be something current--because we KNOW ss easily drained hulk in the past. so?

😂

Right. *Post draining resistance feat, it doesn't count because Surfer drained Hulk 40 years ago. *

Transparent. Utterly transparent.

you know what, i don't even care. lol i think this whole thing has been sufficiently exposed for what it is that i don't need to continue this. the reaching you're doing is giving me vertigo. no wonder carv bailed and left you to die on your hill all alone.

Carver is a moron. But like I said Surfer isn't winning here because he drained Hulk once 40 years ago.

Hulk has become far more powerful than that time.

i wonder y marvel hasnt had a hulk/surfer interaction in awhile.

Originally posted by carver9
Yes. He nearly drained a star.

Still, he should be able to drain the Hulk of his gamma energies without too much trouble.

Originally posted by Magnon
Actually, during Infinity Crusade, Silver Surfer became overloaded very fast when he tried draining the sun. He lost his mind and almost exploded due to a single solar flare. The consequences of this drain on the sun were INSIGNIFICANT, meaning that SS didn't come anywhere near to "nearly draining a star" before reaching his limits.

Still, he should be able to drain the Hulk of his gamma energies without too much trouble.

Leo, sorry for the late response but here is draining fts.

Too much for Ran to drain.

https://m.imgur.com/CBYmAja

By the way, Ran has drained Terrax.

https://m.imgur.com/a/PEcwT

Too much for Chern to drain.

https://m.imgur.com/VhYeXeg
https://m.imgur.com/8zCECJO

Overload Armageddon device. Eventually destroying.

https://m.imgur.com/isldWx1
https://m.imgur.com/5T9sfMi

Energy draining device not working.

https://m.imgur.com/amDaBHC
https://m.imgur.com/hk7quWU

Zzaxx cant absorb him...

https://m.imgur.com/2otML4C

Rulk tries to absorb Hulk and fails.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111164621/5013040-rulk+1.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111164621/5013042-rulk+3.jpg

I can keep going but this should be enough tbh. Also, just want to point out that Hulk can absorb cosmic energy now... 🙂

Ohhh man, i missed KMC