ROTS Dooku vs. ESB Vader.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In general no one needs supplemental info to help them understand a film. No one is stopping you from posting it here. I already gave evidence from the film which backs my claim. Go yell at George Lucas over it.

Its not about NEEDS dimwit.

Its about studying the larger canon to analyse it more thoroughly.

And btw Lucas pretty much line edited the ROTS Novel, so you are the one who will need to go shout at him.

Lmao at constantly repeating the Yoda line, which we already saw in action (Kenobi challenging Anakin).

The question is why Kenobi can challenge Anakin but why he cant also stomp Dooku.

You have your made up answer, that those 3 are peers and styles will make the fight. That Palpatine chose his apprentice according to whose style matches up better LMAO

I have given you the correct answer backed up by the Novel and the stunt coordinator (both of which were directed by Lucas). And that is that Anakin is greater than both, but Kenobi can match him due to their intimate knowledge of each other moves. And due to Anakins mental instability at the time.

I have sources and facts. You have your own made up version of events.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Windu is not yoda and you trying to discredit me only further weakens your position. You need to stick to your position and quit trying to attack me personally.

Ah so youre backtracking now. First you were claiming that Windu, Yoda and Sidious were all in a tier above and beyond Anakin, yet now when im calling you out on that you dont want to interchange between Windu and Yoda.

Hilarious thing is you actually place Windu above Yoda but still dont want to make the interchange.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Windu is not yoda and you trying to discredit me only further weakens your position. You need to stick to your position and quit trying to attack me personally.

Maul was broken by that point and I already explained the reasoning. No, Anakin was raging he was focused on his hatred which is what the Sith revel in. Maul was broken and lost as per Filoni. Vader was lost to the Jedi but embraced the Sith way.

Kenobi was always better off mentally than most Sith but again that is a factor. Maul relied more so on his physical prowess than Kenobi so when he was past his prime it diminished him more. Maul was physically and mentally diminished the last time he faced Kenobi.

And Anakin wasnt relying on his physical abilities?

And Anakin wasnt crying over kiling the separatists? Or about choking his wife half to death? The same wife he was trying to save?

Dont make me laugh. He clearly wasnt mentally right. He hadnt fully embraced his dark side destiny. His conscious was clearly effecting him.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Its not about NEEDS dimwit.

Its about studying the larger canon to analyse it more thoroughly.

And btw Lucas pretty much line edited the ROTS Novel, so you are the one who will need to go shout at him.

Lmao at constantly repeating the Yoda line, which we already saw in action (Kenobi challenging Anakin).

The question is why Kenobi can challenge Anakin but why he cant also stomp Dooku.

You have your made up answer, that those 3 are peers and styles will make the fight. That Palpatine chose his apprentice according to whose style matches up better LMAO

I have given you the correct answer backed up by the Novel and the stunt coordinator (both of which were directed by Lucas). And that is that Anakin is greater than both, but Kenobi can match him due to their intimate knowledge of each other moves. And due to Anakins mental instability at the time.

I have sources and facts. You have your own made up version of events.

Kenobi and Anakin is a better matchup for Kenobi. He does worse against Dooku for a variety of reasons.

No, you are misrepresenting my position. Anakin was younger, more powerful, and more susceptible for corruption.

Kenobi is a peer that is the reason it is even possible. Han Solo could study him for a lifetime but still be unable to best him.

Quit with your excuses. Kenobi was torn to shreds over Anakins betrayal but somehow this only benefits Kenobi with your have it cause and eat it too logic.

^ Actually the excuses are for those like you just making stuff up with no sources to back up your made up claims.

Ive backed everything up and have no need to continue this until you can do the same.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Ah so youre backtracking now. First you were claiming that Windu, Yoda and Sidious were all in a tier above and beyond Anakin, yet now when im calling you out on that you dont want to interchange between Windu and Yoda.

Hilarious thing is you actually place Windu above Yoda but still dont want to make the interchange.

Windu is a peer of yoda but they both bring different styles and strengths to the table. Lucas agreed. Unarguable tbh.

And Anakin wasnt relying on his physical abilities?

And Anakin wasnt crying over kiling the separatists? Or about choking his wife half to death? The same wife he was trying to save?

Dont make me laugh. He clearly wasnt mentally right. He hadnt fully embraced his dark side destiny. His conscious was clearly effecting him. [/B]

Kenobi was worried about her as well. Quit pretending Anakin was the only person mentally affected by his dumbassery.

Neither was Kenobi but Kenobi was mentally stronger than Anakin. He always was. Anakin was emotionally weak his entire life.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Actually the excuses are for those like you just making stuff up with no sources to back up your made up claims.

Ive backed everything up and have no need to continue this until you can do the same.

“Soon I will have a new apprentice, one far younger and more powerful”

There in one line ive matched the total amount of evidence you have brought in your entire pages of derailing and butthurt arguments.

You are a joke.

“You’re a far better Jedi than I could ever hope to be” Obi-Wan.

There, I have already doubled your total evidence in just 2 lines.

Not even touched the big pieces of evidences yet which I have been referring to.

But hey none of that will touch your made up interpretation of the films.

Total joke. Get back to derailing the movie forums please. Be gone from here.

The Battle for the Omniverse 🙂🙂🙂

Originally posted by Darth Thor
“Soon I will have a new apprentice, one far younger and more powerful”

There in one line ive matched the total amount of evidence you have brought in your entire pages of derailing and butthurt arguments.

You are a joke.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
“You’re a far better Jedi than I could ever hope to be” Obi-Wan.

There, I have already doubled your total evidence in just 2 lines.

Not even touched the big pieces of evidences yet which I have been referring to.

But hey none of that will touch your made up interpretation of the films.

Total joke. Get back to derailing the movie forums please. Be gone from here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A film does not require a novel to grasp. I saw the film. Kenobi matched him for a considerable amount of time despite Anakin being more skilled and more powerful. Peers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok and Anakin was also more powerful than Kenobi you clown. How did that end for him? Bring more powerful does not necessarily equate to unbeatable.

Kenobi does not fight like Anakin and closing in is the way to beat an older more precision reliant Dooku.

Post the link. Vader would eventually get there had Kenobi not cleaved his limbs and the lava burned away his looks.

The film makes it clear Kenobi is nowhere near powerful enough to challenge the Palpatine but he does challenge/defeat Vader. The film shoves that into your incredibly biased skull.

Windu/Palpatine/Yoda.

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darth thor just accept your inferiority weaknesses and limitations

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already admitted Anakin was more highly skilled and more powerful than Kenobi.

Then stop trying to create limits on Skywalker by pointing to Kenobis limits you Doofus!

And stop derailing the Vader vs Dooku thread into a “How Weak is Peak Anakin” and “How Powerful is Snoke” shitfest.

Originally posted by gold slorg
darth thor just accept your inferiority weaknesses and limitations

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Will you two ever stop debating this? This has to be the twentieth time at least.

Originally posted by Every person on this forum
AP will you ever stop debating Kun>Malak? You have debated it twenty times or more despite Malak’s unquestionable superiority

If only I didn't consistently prove everyone wrong on the subject, now go back to the kid's table.

AP is destroying the competition, all these white males getting embarrassed

disappointed that you'd bother to engage with them though

Originally posted by CuckedCurry