Scarlet Witch vs Supergirl

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Ask how did eclipse Superman vs marvel go. Empress isn’t magical though, that’s a misconception, she’s a variant of GL energy

It's sorcery mixed with GL energy.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Lobo can take a supernova and yet Superman can’t take one without getting Koed. Do you see why your power scaling is off

He has even absorbed hypernova of Mageddon.

To say we can scale Superman to Lobo in terms of raw strength is inaccurate to me, and here's why

Superman beats Lobo in a fight. But what we see in those fights are Superman knocking him out. That means Supermans striking power is more than Lobos durability. Plain and simple
- Kals punching power >> Lobos durability

It does NOT mean that Superman has strength equal or greater than Lobos, because a showing of strength against strength was NOT displayed in their fights.
--> If they literally locked up and was trying to push the other, and Superman is seen overpowering Lobos strength with his own strength, THEN you can scale it because there is literal on panel evidence of Supermans strength exceeding Lobos strength. Thats proper scaling, not the other way around

Also in jla issues, Superman tops out at planetary feats/strength

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman punched Marvel near death and hospitalized Captain Marvel?

It's sorcery mixed with GL energy.
Superman has taken several supernova attacks. He has even tanked a red sun supernova.

He has even absorbed hypernova of Mageddon.

LOL several? Hahaha I'd love to see this, and it was never confirmed he absorbed the hypernova. all he did was push the gears which is a known unquantifable feat

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
LOL several? Hahaha I'd love to see this, and it was never confirmed he absorbed the hypernova. all he did was push the gears which is a known unquantifable feat

You seem to be wrong, like, a lot.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You seem to be wrong, like, a lot.

ah, alright. but wouldn't it be due to his solar power though?

Originally posted by abhilegend

This always impressed the heck outta me.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman punched Marvel near death and hospitalized Captain Marvel?

It's sorcery mixed with GL energy.
Superman has taken several supernova attacks. He has even tanked a red sun supernova.

He has even absorbed hypernova of Mageddon.

absorbing the bomb in JLA #44 is not a durability feat. It's absorption

The bomb didn't explode

I've seen Superman get KOed from an exploding sun (not supernova) while millions of miles away in Action Comics #867

and He never tanked the red sun supernova either. if your talking about action comics #842, he was hit by the electromagnetic shockwave of the entropy bomb

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
ah, alright. but wouldn't it be due to his solar power though?

It's the reverse of his solar power, lol. It's anti-sunlight.

It's like saying you normally draw energy from burgers...so you can therefore chow down on battery acid.

It's a durability feat because he absorbed all that poison, without dying. Again, like you drinking gallons and gallons and gallons of battery acid and being fine after.

Remember, when Mageddon detonated, it would be enough to vape half the galaxy.

That's really an insane durability feat, tbh. Imagine drinking enough battery acid to vapourise half a city, lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's the reverse of his solar power, lol. It's anti-sunlight.

It's like saying you normally draw energy from burgers...so you can therefore chow down on battery acid.

It's a durability feat because he absorbed all that poison, without dying. Again, like you drinking gallons and gallons and gallons of battery acid and being fine after.

Remember, when Mageddon detonated, it would be enough to vape half the galaxy.

That's really an insane durability feat, tbh. Imagine drinking enough battery acid to vapourise half a city, lol.

He absorbed the antisunlight (before) it detonated

That was the whole point of him absorbing it. To stop the detonation

It's nowhere near the same as actually tanking the explosion

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
He absorbed the antisunlight (before) it detonated

That was the whole point of him absorbing it. To stop the detonation

It's nowhere near the same as actually tanking the explosion

Yes, but the sheer amount of what is essentially poison is what makes it a durability feat.

It's anti sunlight. The absolute worst thing he could have, lol.

I understand that was the point of him absorbing it, lol. But you don't seem to understand my point.

There was still 'X' amount of anti sunlight, no? How much anti sunlight? Enough to vape half the galaxy.

And he absorbed it.

Like a nuclear bomb, which is poisonous to you and me. Imagine if you absorbed all the radiation, rendering the nuke inert... that's a lot of radiation to absorb, no?

And thus, a durability feat. Because you aren't immune to rads.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, but the sheer amount of what is essentially poison is what makes it a durability feat.

It's anti sunlight. The absolute worst thing he could have, lol.

I understand that was the point of him absorbing it, lol. But you don't seem to understand my point.

There was still 'X' amount of anti sunlight, no? How much anti sunlight? Enough to vape half the galaxy.

And he absorbed it.

Like a nuclear bomb, which is poisonous to you and me. Imagine if you absorbed all the radiation, rendering the nuke inert... that's a lot of radiation to absorb, no?

And thus, a durability feat. Because you aren't immune to rads.

But him slowly draining the bombs power bit by bit, doesn't equate to the total energy it would have if it exploded all at once

So how long do you think it took him to do so? And then scale down

Remember, it's anti sunlight, so pure poison to him.

if a nuclear bomb exploded and I absorbed all the radiation right after, then that's legit because ita hitting me all at once. The magnitude is far greater compared to draining it before it explodes

Same with Superman. He's weakening the bomb, draining it's power before explosion. Taking energy bit by bit. Not on the same scale as if it erupted all at once

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So how long do you think it took him to do so? And then scale down

Remember, it's anti sunlight, so pure poison to him.

15 minutes

Wasn't it stated the bomb explode in 15 minutes right before Superman decided to absorb it?

Also To be fair, you can't get hit with the radiation all at once, even if it exploded. Explosions are omni directional. You'd have to completely cover the bomb with your body before it exploded to do so.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
if a nuclear bomb exploded and I absorbed all the radiation right after, then that's legit because ita hitting me all at once. The magnitude is far greater compared to draining it before it explodes

Same with Superman. He's weakening the bomb, draining it's power before explosion. Taking energy bit by bit. Not on the same scale as if it erupted all at once

You're missing the point, lol.

It was going to vape HALF the GALAXY. Even if releasing it all at once is a thousand times more powerful than 'bit by bit' (as you allude to), it's still half the galaxy. That's an incredible amount of energy.

I mean, you could seriously lowball it and say it was only equivalent to a solar system if you want. The Milky Way galaxy could have like 30 billion solar systems, so half of that is 15 billion solar systems.

That's the sheer amount of energy present.

And every bit of it was poison to him.

How you don't see this a

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You're missing the point, lol.

It was going to vape HALF the GALAXY. Even if releasing it all at once is a thousand times more powerful than 'bit by bit' (as you allude to), it's still half the galaxy. That's an incredible amount of energy.

I mean, you could seriously lowball it and say it was only equivalent to a solar system if you want. The Milky Way galaxy could have like 30 billion solar systems, so half of that is 15 billion solar systems.

That's the sheer amount of energy present.

And every bit of it was poison to him.

How you don't see this a

I understand the poison, what you are,not understanding is weakening the bomb before it explodes is absolutely nowhere near the same as tanking it without weakening it

There is a (vast) difference in energy that is released

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
I understand the poison, what you are,not understanding is weakening the bomb before it explodes is absolutely nowhere near the same as tanking it without weakening it

There is a (vast) difference in energy that is released

How vast?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How vast?

give me a sec. ill provide links that'll break it down scientifcally