IW Thor vs Superman

Started by CPT Space Bomb69 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman is much more durable than Thanos. It's not even clear if stormbreaker could barely break his skin.
Prove it.

Originally posted by h1a8
It wasn't a normal sword. It was special, just like her shield.
I never seen where Diana landed a sword slice or stab on Steppenwolf.

Prove it.

Try watching the movie.

Originally posted by h1a8
It wasn't a normal sword. It was special, just like her shield.
I never seen where Diana landed a sword slice or stab on Steppenwolf.
Do you watch these movies?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove it.

Try watching the movie.

Prove it?
1.
Actually the onus is to show that it is a normal sword SINCE
Her shield was magical as shown (as well as in the comics).
Her lasso was magical as shown (as well as in the comics).
Therefore all her equipment (including sword), by writer's intent, should be magical as shown in the comics.

2.
Superman and Zod has flown through countless high rise glass without a cut. If a normal sword can cut something then certainly strong reinforced glass can too.

3.
Pressure = force/area
If Zod can resist large amounts of pressure then a normal sword would break if applied the same pressure.

In other words, it is plain stupid for a normal sword to be able to easily slice a limb off when aircraft bullets (with a sharp tip) can't put a scratch on them or flying through steel beams, glass, and concrete without a scratch.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Prove it.
Superman has survived greater forces and pressures without being damaged than Thanos has. IM made Thanos bleed.
I can provide several feats where each is greater than any force or pressure that Thanos experienced.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman has survived greater forces and pressures without being damaged than Thanos has. IM made Thanos bleed.
I can provide several feats where each is greater than any force or pressure that Thanos experienced.
He passed out holding up a tower.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He passed out holding up a tower.

What are you talking about? Post the scene with timestamp.

Originally posted by h1a8
What are you talking about? Post the scene with timestamp.

He’s talking about when superman was a fisherman in MOS and that oil tower was on fire. It exploded whilst he was holding up part it and the next scene is him passed out in the ocean. It’s been a while since I saw the film but that’s the best I can remember it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Prove it?
1.
Actually the onus is to show that it is a normal sword SINCE
Her shield was magical as shown (as well as in the comics).
Her lasso was magical as shown (as well as in the comics).
Therefore all her equipment (including sword), by writer's intent, should be magical as shown in the comics.

2.
Superman and Zod has flown through countless high rise glass without a cut. If a normal sword can cut something then certainly strong reinforced glass can too.

3.
Pressure = force/area
If Zod can resist large amounts of pressure then a normal sword would break if applied the same pressure.

In other words, it is plain stupid for a normal sword to be able to easily slice a limb off when aircraft bullets (with a sharp tip) can't put a scratch on them or flying through steel beams, glass, and concrete without a scratch.

In other words, you have no proof. Just more of your biased to speculation

Originally posted by Nevan
Mega Surtur was 800 meters tall when he first appeared, ergo before hulk punched him, the same quote I quoted states that 800 meters was his smallest size.

If you want to dismiss that you can't bring author intention or statements in other debates.

The vfx also state that he's made from magma, so you're also wrong on that.

Want to try to calculate how much a 100 meter giant made of molten rock would weight, even going by your scaling?

By the way you ignored how he compares to Asgard's structures, you can compare him to the palace since he first appears on Asgard.

https://mobile.digitalartsonline.co.uk/features/motion-graphics/how-method-studios-created-surtur-his-fire-demons-dragons-major-fight-scenes-in-thor-ragnarok/

Surtur is meant to be an imposing presence, filled with crusted magma flesh, 18-feet tall. Surtar was created entirely with keyframe animation. Method artists created the giant fiery beast by using geometry as a base, and by running textures through a muscle system to give directionality to the magma, which was then lightened for depth.

Even the homepage of the Studio that did it states it.

https://www.methodstudios.com/en/features/thor-ragnarok/
[QUOTE]Method also provided concept art, fleshed out Surtur’s writhing and crusted magma flesh, and refined CG characters including the dragon, fire demons and E-Guard soldiers, as well as large-scale environments.


[/QUOTE]

Originally posted by Nevan
YouTube video

Giant Surtur's officially stated size is 800 meters when he first appears and he continues to grow larger until he dies.

Building character with Thor (part2)

During the sequence Mega Surtur grew. He ranged from roughly 800m when he first appeared to about 4,000m when he finally destroyed Asgard. In order to compensate for this change in size and keep a consistent fire look, the character was scaled down to a specific size before running the simulation. Then the fire was scaled back up accordingly to whatever size he happened to be in that particular shot. For example when he was the initial 800m tall, the average voxel size was 16 cm . When he was the final 4,000m tall, the average voxel size was 80 cm.

This is relevant since Thor endured a leaping punch from Hulk with his full bodyweight at the end of the arena fight without any lasting injuries.

Originally posted by Nevan
Even the homepage of the Studio that did it states it.

https://www.methodstudios.com/en/features/thor-ragnarok/

This is relevant since Thor endured a leaping punch from Hulk with his full bodyweight at the end of the arena fight without any lasting injuries.

Oh no, you provided feats that make H1 words look hilariously silly as they always are. He's probably watching MoS and BvS as we speak....I feel bad for him.

Originally posted by Silent Master
In other words, you have no proof. Just more of your biased to speculation

In other words, you claiming no proof in the face of proof.

Anyone can call speculation proof.

Originally posted by Nevan
Even the homepage of the Studio that did it states it.

https://www.methodstudios.com/en/features/thor-ragnarok/

This is relevant since Thor endured a leaping punch from Hulk with his full bodyweight at the end of the arena fight without any lasting injuries.

It’s not relevant because characters don’t always apply the same level of force in fiction. Even if it was then you don’t know the density of Surtur. I proved that his height was about 100m. And it was mostly Hulk’s weight and falling momentum that supplied the force, since following strikes did absolutely nothing.

Originally posted by h1a8
In other words, you claiming no proof in the face of proof.

Anyone can call speculation proof.

Your speculation isn't proof. by your own standards of "logic and reason" there wasn't much force involved when WW cut Doomsday's arm off. therefore cutting his arm off doesn't prove the sword was very special.

It certainly doesn't put it anywhere near Stormbreaker.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your speculation isn't proof. by your own standards of "logic and reason" there wasn't much force involved when WW cut Doomsday's arm off. therefore cutting his arm off doesn't prove the sword was very special.

It certainly doesn't put it anywhere near Stormbreaker.

But we all know how durable DD (Zod) is. Regular swords can’t cut him since we would reach a contradiction. And in comics WW equipment is magical. The movie shows the shield being magical and the sword able to cut invulnerable beings.

It makes absolutely no sense for it to be a regular sword. No version of a normal powered Superman in all of fiction can be cut by a regular sword.

This isn't even a fight, Superman is >>>>>>>>>>>> Hulk and Thor combined.

He speed blitz's, or simply tears Thor's head off.

Nah, Thor wins. Far more powerful and better experience. Superman didn’t even take Batman’s head off with his skank mother’s life on the line.

Originally posted by h1a8
But we all know how durable DD (Zod) is. Regular swords can’t cut him since we would reach a contradiction. And in comics WW equipment is magical. The movie shows the shield being magical and the sword able to cut invulnerable beings.

It makes absolutely no sense for it to be a regular sword. No version of a normal powered Superman in all of fiction can be cut by a regular sword.

I see, you only want to apply "logic and reason" when it helps your argument. There is a term for that, hypocrite.

BTW, this is the movie vs forum. comics feats don't count.

Originally posted by Impediment
Movie feats only, guys.

Comic book references are nil in here.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I see, you only want to apply "logic and reason" when it helps your argument. There is a term for that, hypocrite.

BTW, this is the movie vs forum. comics feats don't count.

I will apply logic and reasoning to anyone’s stand. Give me an example where someone else used logic and reasoning and I was a hypocrite.

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