IW Thor vs Superman

Started by Josh_Alexander69 pages
Originally posted by Psychotron
Lol no they haven't. Provide proof.

https://youtu.be/V3Z8kMXRpSI

https://youtu.be/KT3odor8t9I

They are clearly blocking blasters.

And again. Ares made pretty clear he was about to attack Diana. He even shout it.

Thor destroys him.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
As others have said, If Thor connects Superman dies. Also, Superman got Ko'd by a nuc, Thor took the full power of a neutron star for several minutes. Thor has better damage soak feats, and a Hammer that can power through infinity gauntlet trying to stop it....yah, Superman better not get hit.
Superman getting KO'd by a nuke is also frankly one of Superman's lower showings of durability.

Thor's neutron star feat is definitely easily the best durability feat he has, and I wouldn't think to take it away from him. It's not as impressive as people are thinking though. People are hyping it up that it's some planet to star durability+ level feat that brings him beyond Superman's ability to hurt. I had my doubts that was the case myself, but wanted to wait to see what some people who had a better idea about the physics and math behind the feat would say.

http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Numbersguy/The_Chad_Thor_(Attempt_by_Numbersguy)#comm-1633391

This is what these nerds came up with, and the OBD apparently has his durability around the same level, though I couldn't find the calc for why.

Now, as far as Superman goes, he has a couple of durability feats quite a ways above the nuke one. The first is in Man of Steel, where he plows directly through the World Engine, which had enough energy to terraform the surface of the planet Earth, essentially altering the geography and atmosphere to being identical to that of Krypton.

The second feat, which was easily overlooked, as said in Justice League:

"The Mother Box was designed to reshape a planet. But what if you were stronger than a planet? If your cells were lying dormant, but incapable of decay? A boost from the Mother Box-"
"Could bring him back to life."
―Batman and the Flash

Superman withstood the energies of the Mother Box, which can reshape a planet, with Batman indicating that Superman being hardier than a planet is what would allow them to use the Mother Box to resurrect him. Which it does.

Now, is this quite a bit better than Superman's prior durability feats? Sure. Much like Thor surviving the neutron star's energies. 👆

^ Neither of those are quantifiable.

What is quantifiable is measuring the heat and force of a Star next to that of a Nuclear Bomb.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Neither of those are quantifiable.

What is quantifiable is measuring the heat and force of a Star next to that of a Nuclear Bomb.

Yeah there is nothing quantifiable about Superman being able to withstand the world-altering energies to reshape a planet's surface because he's "stronger than a planet" lol. The bias is unreal.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah there is nothing quantifiable about Superman being able to withstand the world-altering energies to reshape a planet's surface because he's "stronger than a planet" lol. The bias is unreal.

He stopped it before it reformed the planet. We have no idea how long that was gonna take.

So no not quantifiable at all.

His biggest quantifiable durability feat is the Nuke.

So either the World Engine feat is a Massive Contradiction, or its being blown completely out of proportion. In any case we should turn to the feat we understand better. Thats especially so with a Massive Contradiction.

Thor learns from Thanos and aims for the head. /thread

Originally posted by Darth Thor
He stopped it before it reformed the planet. We have no idea how long that was gonna take.

So no not quantifiable at all.

His biggest quantifiable durability feat is the Nuke.

So either the World Engine feat is a Massive Contradiction, or its being blown completely out of proportion. In any case we should turn to the feat we understand better. Thats especially so with a Massive Contradiction.

You might want to reread my post, because you apparently didn't grasp all of it.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor learns from Thanos and aims for the head. /thread
He won't land a single blow unless Superman is asleep.

Originally posted by NemeBro
He won't land a single blow unless Superman is asleep.
Right, because BVS never happened.

I'd give the win to Superman 6/10. The 4/10 win for Thor is because we still don't know if Superman can blitz Thor if he has his lightning coating on or just spams a lightning storm and because SB can probably oneshot Superman if it hits.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Right, because BVS never happened.

You mean the same Superman that spent the whole fight trying to make Batman back down all the while being exposed to Kryptonite? You mean that movie?

You mean the Superman who by accident laid waste to Metropolis fighting Zod?

Originally posted by SquallX
You mean the same Superman that spent the whole fight trying to make Batman back down all the while being exposed to Kryptonite? You mean that movie?
Yes, but he wasn't fighting ftl agains Doomsday either. Not always. He also got ko'd by a nuc. His showings thus far in the movies aren't NEARLY as impressive as his fanboys would like everyone to think.

Originally posted by NemeBro
He won't land a single blow unless Superman is asleep.
WW headbutted him. Where is this he won’t be touched Superman ? I’ve seen him hit in every single fight I’ve seen him in.

Originally posted by SquallX
You mean the same Superman that spent the whole fight trying to make Batman back down all the while being exposed to Kryptonite? You mean that movie?
His mother’s life was on the line. He was motivated and failed despite having a reason to fight for his mother. Superman is a Boy Scout hence a huge glaring weakness right out of the gate. He isn’t some killer. Look at how he reacted after he killed Zod. Pansy.

Thor destroys him.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Yes, but he wasn't fighting ftl agains Doomsday either. Not always. He also got ko'd by a nuc. His showings thus far in the movies aren't NEARLY as impressive as his fanboys would like everyone to think.
The denial.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The denial.
? Show me a movie where superman uses superspeed every second of every fight...in fact he rarely uses it in the movies. Based off the movies There will be times where Thor hits him. Superman isn't going to be able to do enough damage to Thor without getting hit back.. THor's hits, now with Stormbreaker, are going to WRECK Superman. Superman needs better durability feats in the movies...then we'll talk.

Thor with this weapon is unfair for Superman. It’s too powerful and would cleave his body in two. Thor beats him without it.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
? Show me a movie where superman uses superspeed every second of every fight...in fact he rarely uses it in the movies. Based off the movies There will be times where Thor hits him. Superman isn't going to be able to do enough damage to Thor without getting hit back.. THor's hits, now with Stormbreaker, are going to WRECK Superman. Superman needs better durability feats in the movies...then we'll talk.

Basically depends if Superman will try to tank the shots or try to dodge. In JL he just tanked the shots because he knew he couldnt be hurt. He did use it against Flash and Steppenwolf so I guess it comes down to Superman thinking Thor is a threat from the beginning or not.