IW Thor vs Superman

Started by quanchi11269 pages

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Basically depends if Superman will try to tank the shots or try to dodge. In JL he just tanked the shots because he knew he couldnt be hurt. He did use it against Flash and Steppenwolf so I guess it comes down to Superman thinking Thor is a threat from the beginning or not.
He also got hit by knife twice so it’s to his dismay if you believe he allowed it. WW clearly affected him with her head just not enough to ko him.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Basically depends if Superman will try to tank the shots or try to dodge. In JL he just tanked the shots because he knew he couldnt be hurt. He did use it against Flash and Steppenwolf so I guess it comes down to Superman thinking Thor is a threat from the beginning or not.

Going by how Superman is shown fighting in all his movies(DCEU) which do you think is more likely. 1) Superman uses his speed for 100% of his fight or 2) He only uses it for part of the fight?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Going by how Superman is shown fighting in all his movies(DCEU) which do you think is more likely. 1) Superman uses his speed for 100% of his fight or 2) He only uses it for part of the fight?

Does he need to use a 100% speed to be faster than Thor or to react to Thors attacks? Nothing we have seen from Thor suggests he can move or react that fast.In AoU Thor throws Mjolnir at Quicksilver who is a Speedster and it is moving in slow motion and is easy to dodge. If Thor throws Stormbreaker, Would it not appear slow to Superman?

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Does he need to use a 100% speed to be faster than Thor or to react to Thors attacks? Nothing we have seen from Thor suggests he can move or react that fast.In AoU Thor throws Mjolnir at Quicksilver who is a Speedster and it is moving in slow motion and is easy to dodge. If Thor throws Stormbreaker, Would it not appear slow to Superman?
Was WW’s head butt faster than light speed ?

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Does he need to use a 100% speed to be faster than Thor or to react to Thors attacks? Nothing we have seen from Thor suggests he can move or react that fast.In AoU Thor throws Mjolnir at Quicksilver who is a Speedster and it is moving in slow motion and is easy to dodge. If Thor throws Stormbreaker, Would it not appear slow to Superman?

You didn't answer my question.

I have went over this before. Superman was not concerned at all about WW. Its no different than letting a toddler try and punch me, I am not going to dodge or try to block it as it poses no physical threat to me. Now if someone I deem a threat attempts to hit me, then yes I will defend myself.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
I have went over this before. Superman was not concerned at all about WW. Its no different than letting a toddler try and punch me, I am not going to dodge or try to block it as it poses no physical threat to me. Now if someone I deem a threat attempts to hit me, then yes I will defend myself.
So why did he use his speed to stop her from using her bracelets if she’s no threat. You lie. Her headbutt clearly affected him. You tend to lie for Superman.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So why did he use his speed to stop her from using her bracelets if she’s no threat. You lie. Her headbutt clearly affected him. You tend to lie for Superman.
Why did Thanos strain against Cap and ultimately knock him out if he wasn't a threat?

Originally posted by Silent Master
You didn't answer my question.

Your question is irrelevant. What is more likely? Superman wins is what is more likely. He doesnt need to fight at Super Speed/Flash Levels. His 50% Speed is sufficient enough. He didnt need Super Speed to dodge Cyborgs blast. .

As I said before, Thor is my favorite Character so I'm not wanking Superman. I just dont think Thor beats Superman.

Well Captain America uppercut Thanos and did the same thing Dianas Headbutt did. Nothing but an annoyance.

So Thanos is to slow to dodge Captain America?

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Your question is irrelevant. What is more likely? Superman wins is what is more likely. He doesnt need to fight at Super Speed/Flash Levels. His 50% Speed is sufficient enough. He didnt need Super Speed to dodge Cyborgs blast. .

As I said before, Thor is my favorite Character so I'm not wanking Superman. I just dont think Thor beats Superman.

If the question was irrelevant, you wouldn't have a problem answering it. as the answer wouldn't make a difference.

So the very fact that you're dodging the question is proof that you believe it is very relevant.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If the question was irrelevant, you wouldn't have a problem answering it. as the answer wouldn't make a difference.

So the very fact that you're dodging the question is proof that you believe it is very relevant.

It is more likely he wouldnt use Super Speed the Whole Fight because he wouldnt need to. Is that ok for an answer?

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
It is more likely he wouldnt use Super Speed the Whole Fight because he wouldnt need to. Is that ok for an answer?

It's better, now let's focus on your claim that he wouldn't need to use it. are you claiming that Superman can't be seriously hurt any of Thor's attacks?

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's better, now let's focus on your claim that he wouldn't need to use it. are you claiming that Superman can't be seriously hurt any of Thor's attacks?

Not claiming that. I dont think he would need to use it 100% or be a full blown speedster. I think his speed advantage is so great that even a fraction of it would give him the advantage.I do think it would be a good fight. I do not think Superman would stomp and if he just tries to tank Stormbreaker or Non stop lightning strikes, he could lose. I think with a combination of his Speed and strength he can physically KO Thor.

Are there scenarios where Thor could win? Yes I will admit that. I just dont think it would be the majority.

Fair enough.

A big question here is whether Superman's speed will allow him to hit Thor even if Thor already has his lightning coating turned on (like he did in the bridge fight in Ragnarok).

Or will Superman get zapped when he tries to close and punch Thor.

Originally posted by FrothByte
A big question here is whether Superman's speed will allow him to hit Thor even if Thor already has his lightning coating turned on (like he did in the bridge fight in Ragnarok).

Or will Superman get zapped when he tries to close and punch Thor.

You know he’s fast enough to see the lighting strands right?

^ So? That doesn't stop him from getting zapped if the electric charge is covering Thor's entire body.

If Superman uses heat vision at super speed it could spell trouble for Thor, even if he did have the lightning shield.

I think this is why I have a problem with characters with super speed, if they're able to move that fast, why wouldn't they move that fast all the time? It takes no more effort to do so - from visuals anyway, no one's huffing and puffing after super speed.

Originally posted by gauntlet o doom
If Superman uses heat vision at super speed it could spell trouble for Thor, even if he did have the lightning shield.

I think this is why I have a problem with characters with super speed, if they're able to move that fast, why wouldn't they move that fast all the time? It takes no more effort to do so - from visuals anyway, no one's huffing and puffing after super speed.

Except I don't recall Superman ever using heat vision at superspeed in his movies. In fact, every time he uses it he stops moving and squares up before firing. Almost like he needs to prepare and brace for it.

The most movement he does is move his head around and I believe there was one scene where he's walking slowly as he uses it.