Baby Alfie

Originally posted by SquallX
So if children aren’t the property of their parents, those this means their are the Government’s property then?

Be real careful with your answer if you chooses the latter!

The answer would be that a child is no one's "property", though the parent's are responsible for said child's well being and there is precedence where the state can interfere if said parents are doing something harmful to the child's well being and/or quality of life. I hope that clears up your confusion.

Originally posted by SquallX
So if children aren’t the property of their parents, those this means their are the Government’s property then?

Be real careful with your answer if you chooses the latter!

or a conservative, not much difference apparently. 🙁

Originally posted by Beniboybling
😂

or a conservative, not much difference apparently. 🙁

After what your country , The Land of U.K has done the lasft few years.

I would have to say if any country around here acts "SITHY" it would be yours.

no surprise since conservatives are running it, yeah

MmmmmYeah. Try again.

😉

Look at this Flyboy:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/12292/theresa-may-champion-freedom-spyridon-mitsotakis

Even your favourite “news” site cucks for our government. 😱

The PM ISN'T THE WHOLE OF THE GOVERNMENT! Now is she?

Lots of Lefties still hold High positions in your Horrible Land of U.K.

is that so, can you name some flyboy?

This situation sounds horrible.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
That would be reason to have a panel of medical professionals evaluate the baby's condition, which has little resemblance to what the parents were trying to do.

Do you think the doctors would be doing the same thing if this was Prince Williams kid? Would the royals be prevented from taking their child to another country for medical treatment?

Would the doctors be willing to do the same thing if it was their own kid?

I see one side making a lot of emotional arguments without much of a consistent line of reasoning. i mean, come on - it's really, really easy to point out the logical flaws in Fly Attractor and co.'s case. You guys surely aren't thinking it through very honestly.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Would the doctors be willing to do the same thing if it was their own kid?

That's rarely ever a fair argument, the "what if you...". A person in that position is emotionally compromised and I'd expect any parent to toss aside reason and logic when their child's life is on the line. The doctors' responsible is to put aside emotion and judge from a point of science and facts to the best of thier ability and training.

eg Similar when people use the "what if your loved one was murdered" angle as a means to force a pro capital punishment argument. Obviously I'd probably want to person dead, but I'm emotionally compromised in that situation. The State should make decisions based on logic/reason.

edit: Or what Ellimist said /ninja'd

Originally posted by Surtur
Do you think the doctors would be doing the same thing if this was Prince Williams kid? Would the royals be prevented from taking their child to another country for medical treatment?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Would the doctors be willing to do the same thing if it was their own kid?

Are these miracle Italian doctors (who apparently are saying they can't do much?) being stopped from coming to the UK to perform whatever treatment?

Dunno, I assume if he is being denied life support they would not be allowed to come to the UK to treat him.

However Italy doesn’t seem to be offering anything in particular, this all appears a result of the father petitioning the Pope for help.

Originally posted by Robtard
Are these miracle Italian doctors (who apparently are saying they can't do much?) being stopped from coming to the UK to perform whatever treatment?

Don't know. Italy sent a chopper to the UK for the kid. The UK responded by posting police near the baby IIRC.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
I see one side making a lot of emotional arguments without much of a consistent line of reasoning. i mean, come on - it's really, really easy to point out the logical flaws in Fly Attractor and co.'s case. You guys surely aren't thinking it through very honestly.

Can't speak for others, but I'm not trying to point out the flaws in anyone's case. I am simply curious if people believe the royals in the UK would receive the same exact treatment. If people think they would be told "No, you can't remove your sick child to get treatment in another country, he has to die".

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Uh, do you? There is basically no chance you could've gotten a double digit score on the MCAT, so I'm going to go with no. What I said, however, is the consensus of every medical expert I've seen review his case, so the experts are not on your side.

I got a 524.

I have determined that this baby is pregnant.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I got a 524.

I have determined that this baby is pregnant.

The baby self identifies as a healthy baby and not a sick one.

Boom, nailed it. Now the UK needs to explain why healthy babies can't go to Italy.