Originally posted by NewjakYah, it's pretty clear Thanos wasn't REALLY trying to kill most of the characters. Loki had it coming for his betrayal/failures AND trying to kill Thanos. Then Iron Man wasn't gonna stop until Thanos did kill him....so he kinda brought it on himself. Thanos could have EASILY killed everyone except maybe THor with SB but even then he could have done it if he knew Thor was coming earlier/what to expect.
I would argue Thanos went through a lot more than Tony did.Also IM blocked a blast which is nice but Cap also took a blast effect from the guantlet so it's hard to judge how much of a feat that is.
Long story short it's pretty obvious Thanos was pulling his punches.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Could Iron Man take on Thanos without his armour?You and Quan really are getting a bit silly on this.
Originally posted by Darth ThorFunny thing is hes making out Storm Breaker did it by itself completely unaided by Thor.
This is what YOU are saying. Are you implying that Thor could replicate the feat with any other weapon?
Originally posted by Darth ThorIt was the weapon not just Thor. It still failed. You’re upset Thanos beat them all. Thor has his work cut out of him just against the Hulk who Thanos destroyed in the first five minutes.
Could Iron Man take on Thanos without his armour?You and Quan really are getting a bit silly on this.
Thor was fighting Hulk without his hammer. That's like half of what Thor is. It channels and amplifies his power. So, a gimped Thor still beat Hulk before being 2v1'd by Grandmaster. Sure, Thanos bodied Hulk in IW and that's impressive. But He also tried to stop Thor at full strength (with SB) and failed. THor with SB is impressive as hell. Thanos is more impressive, sure. But Thor is a beast atm and clearly "The Strongest Avenger" at least until Captain Marvel comes out.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombOdin put this claim to rest. He isn’t th4 god of hammer and showed how he can channel his power without it. Thor never bested Hulk. Hulk took every bit of lightning from Thor and wasn’t done for the count. Thor isn’t the strongest abwmgwr that the hulk. That’s pretty clear cut. Points to the beginning of the film. Hulk clearly affected Thanos far more with his strength than Thor did.
Thor was fighting Hulk without his hammer. That's like half of what Thor is. It channels and amplifies his power. So, a gimped Thor still beat Hulk before being 2v1'd by Grandmaster. Sure, Thanos bodied Hulk in IW and that's impressive. But He also tried to stop Thor at full strength (with SB) and failed. THor with SB is impressive as hell. Thanos is more impressive, sure. But Thor is a beast atm and clearly "The Strongest Avenger" at least until Captain Marvel comes out.
Thor isn’t the strongest physically but he brings other talents than just superhuman strength/durability/physicality.
He used one beam which is the same beam Iron Man blocked. No surprise his axe powered through that beam to me.
Originally posted by Quanchi112Odin put this claim to rest. He isn’t th4 god of hammer and showed how he can channel his power without it. Thor never bested Hulk. Hulk took every bit of lightning from Thor and wasn’t done for the count. Thor isn’t the strongest abwmgwr that the hulk. That’s pretty clear cut. Points to the beginning of the film. Hulk clearly affected Thanos far more with his strength than Thor did.Thor isn’t the strongest physically but he brings other talents than just superhuman strength/durability/physicality.
He used one beam which is the same beam Iron Man blocked. No surprise his axe powered through that beam to me.
1. Wrong. Thor is CLEARLY more powerful with an enchanted weapon. Sure, he doesn't NEED a hammer to be a badass but to be the most he can be he needs it. This is OBVIOUS by how beat down he was by Thanos without a weapon and what he did to Thanos WITH a weapon.
2. Yes, Thor bested Hulk in Ragnarok. He was kicking his ass until Grandmaster 2v1'd him. This is obvious and non-debatable.
3. Sure, Hulk is PHYSICALLY stronger than Thor, that I won't argue. But Thor is all around more powerful, and that's pretty damn clear at this point.
4. Well, that's just speculation because we don't get to see the fight. For all we know it was Thanos and the entire children of Thanos (5v1) against Thor. We just don't know.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
1. Wrong. Thor is CLEARLY more powerful with an enchanted weapon. Sure, he doesn't NEED a hammer to be a badass but to be the most he can be he needs it. This is OBVIOUS by how beat down he was by Thanos without a weapon and what he did to Thanos WITH a weapon.
2. Yes, Thor bested Hulk in Ragnarok. He was kicking his ass until Grandmaster 2v1'd him. This is obvious and non-debatable.
3. Sure, Hulk is PHYSICALLY stronger than Thor, that I won't argue. But Thor is all around more powerful, and that's pretty damn clear at this point.
4. Well, that's just speculation because we don't get to see the fight. For all we know it was Thanos and the entire children of Thanos (5v1) against Thor. We just don't know.
1. No, Odin put that to bed. You can take it up with Ragnarok. False, Thor used a weapon to hit Thanos in Infinity War in the beginning. He later had the most powerful weapon he ever held. This weapon made his hammer look pathetic in direct comparison. Don’t be disingenuous.
2. Thor hurt him he didn’t beat him. Thor woke up in pain Hulk was fine the next time we saw them both interacting. No, it isn’t you’re just mad and not being reasonable.
3. Perfect.
4. We see Thor cheapshot him. He did not do anything to him. We see the order let Thanos fight Hulk and Thor then cheapshot him directly after his fight. Thor looked pitiful. He’s nothing to Thanos one on one. He needs the axe to compete and help.
originally posted by -Quanchii1121. No, Odin put that to bed. You can take it up with Ragnarok. False, Thor used a weapon to hit Thanos in Infinity War in the beginning. He later had the most powerful weapon he ever held. This weapon made his hammer look pathetic in direct comparison. Don’t be disingenuous.
2. Thor hurt him he didn’t beat him. Thor woke up in pain Hulk was fine the next time we saw them both interacting. No, it isn’t you’re just mad and not being reasonable.
3. Perfect.
4. We see Thor cheapshot him. He did not do anything to him. We see the order let Thanos fight Hulk and Thor then cheapshot him directly after his fight. Thor looked pitiful. He’s nothing to Thanos one on one. He needs the axe to compete and help.
1. A severely weakened and beat up Thor wacking Thanos out of desperation with a pipe does not count FFS. Use context and common sense please. OBVIOUSLY when I say a weapon I'm referring to the magic/tech weapons of Nivadellir. Also, clearly Ragnarok DOESN'T put that to bed because again, Thor without a magic weapon was defeated badly; Thor with one almost killed Thanos.
2. Thor was kicking his ass untill he got 2v1'd. It's clear as day. Grandmaster was worried because Thor was WINNING.
4. Um, WRONG. Thanos was ATTEMPTING TO STOP Stormbreaker from hitting him and he COULDN'T. Sure, it's PIS, but it still happened. Thor almost killed Thanos with a Nivadellir weapon. I agree with the last part though. If Thor didn't have Stormbreaker he'd have absolutely no shot against Thanos. BUT, That's WHO THOR IS. The weapon is part of who and what Thor is. It's been like that since the beginning. The hammer is just as much a part of Thor as invulnerability is to Superman, or Strength to Hulk; even moreso actually.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
1. A severely weakened and beat up Thor wacking Thanos out of desperation with a pipe does not count FFS. Use context and common sense please. OBVIOUSLY when I say a weapon I'm referring to the magic/tech weapons of Nivadellir. Also, clearly Ragnarok DOESN'T put that to bed because again, Thor without a magic weapon was defeated badly; Thor with one almost killed Thanos.2. Thor was kicking his ass untill he got 2v1'd. It's clear as day. Grandmaster was worried because Thor was WINNING.
4. Um, WRONG. Thanos was ATTEMPTING TO STOP Stormbreaker from hitting him and he COULDN'T. Sure, it's PIS, but it still happened. Thor almost killed Thanos with a Nivadellir weapon. I agree with the last part though. If Thor didn't have Stormbreaker he'd have absolutely no shot against Thanos. BUT, That's WHO THOR IS. The weapon is part of who and what Thor is. It's been like that since the beginning. The hammer is just as much a part of Thor as invulnerability is to Superman, or Strength to Hulk; even moreso actually.
1. It shows how desperate Quan is when he's using a beat-up, injured and weakened Thor just to make Hulk look better.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor was fighting Hulk without his hammer. That's like half of what Thor is. It channels and amplifies his power. So, a gimped Thor still beat Hulk before being 2v1'd by Grandmaster. Sure, Thanos bodied Hulk in IW and that's impressive. But He also tried to stop Thor at full strength (with SB) and failed. THor with SB is impressive as hell. Thanos is more impressive, sure. But Thor is a beast atm and clearly "The Strongest Avenger" at least until Captain Marvel comes out.
In a surprise attack, which you forgot to mention.
So, don't make me laugh!!!
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderIt stopped being a surprise attack when Thor threw Stormbreaker at Thanos while Thanos was actively attempting to stop it and failed. Sure, the lighting strike ****ed Thanos up a bit but that was the only surprise part of the attack if we're being technical.
In a surprise attack, which you forgot to mention.So, don't make me laugh!!!
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Dumb statement the one you said then.
Youre being ridiculously dumb.
Storm Breaker isnt like a Green Lantern ring. Its a weapon focuses Thors own power through it.
Its the replacement for Mjolnir. IOW its standard gear for him now and part of his power set.
The hilarious part is you and Quan whining about Thor using Storm Breaker when Thanos was using All Six Infinity Stones!