Originally posted by The SorrowThe IW feat is what they are referencing. That doesn’t mean Hulk couldn’t do it. Every time both are shown in a similar situation Hulk is stronger and more durable. Comparisons matter not just feats. That’s how we determine who is superior.
Based on what? Just because Thor gets his ass kicked far more than Hulk does doesn't mean he has better durability.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Hulk is stronger and more durable, Thor generally has more determination, is obviously more skilful, and because of Stormbreaker is now more powerful.
Thor was more powerful before Stormbreaker.
Giving Thor the edge in everything but strength is the only logical conclusion.
Did people think Thor would just instantly melt or something lol? He can survive short periods in the sun in comics so it's hardly surprising he can in the movies. Hulk is still more durable in the comics and movies though, like you said almost everytime they're on screen together it's Hulk who comes off looking physically superior.
Originally posted by The SorrowBased on the films. Thor has taken the full force of a star for several minutes in space. Hulk can't even breath in space (at least until shown otherwise), let alone take a star. Thor has taken massive hits and cheapshots from Hulk and beings Far more powerful than Hulk and still always comes away fine. He is the lone survivor of Thanos' power stone explosion on his Asgardian ship. He took repeated poundings from Kurse, a being so powerful he was able to Swat Mjolnir completely away MID FLIGHT and just had some scratches on his face. Hulk can't even pick up Mjolnir. Thor fell from space into a portal thousands or more feet in the air and crashed into Sakarr's surface and was perfectly fine. Thor took hit after hit from an enraged Hulk that had BEEN HULK FOR YEARS on Sakarr and didn't get even get scratched. Basically, Thor has shown to be supremely durable against all forms of damage; Physical, elemental and magical.
Based on what? Just because Thor gets his ass kicked far more than Hulk does doesn't mean he has better durability.
Edit: Thor doesn't get his ass kicked more than Hulk either. Hulk has gotten his ass kicked once per movie appearance at least. Thor was completely untouched as Thor in Thor 1. Thor also fights WAY more powerful foes than Hulk does consistently.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
IYO. What the hell makes Thor more durable then? And don't say the star feat, Hulk wasn't there.
....superior feats? That's not an excuse.
And your logic that Thor gets his ass kicked more holds no water. The first time Hulk faced anyone of note was Fenris, and he barely won that through bfr, he was having serious problems there. Surtur casually smacked him away, and Thanos took his lunch money. Even Thor was the favourite in pure h2h when he went god mode in Ragnarok.
If Hulk was facing beings like Kurse, Malekith, and Hela like Thor had, he'd be taking a pounding too but tbh, I can't justify him being more durable anymore. In Avengers 1, he managed to draw a bit of blood with a punch. In Ragnarok, an extended ground and pound didn't even scratch Thor. Thor's invulnerability has improved, which was the only category Hulk has an edge imo.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Based on what? Just because Thor gets his ass kicked far more than Hulk does doesn't mean he has better durability.
Thor tanked the full force of a Neutron Star for several minutes...
Until Hulk has a feat of durability on that level, Thors durability is greater than Hulks...
So nothing? 😂 Post is full of bias, mentioning Hulk breathing in space as some kind of mark against him... in durability... interesting.
Thor got ko'd by Hulk and was left sore and badly bruised afterwards, no punch delivered by Hulk in the main arena fight was comparable to the punch he took Thor out with. Thor never ko'd Hulk despite hitting him with his 2 biggest attacks in the entire movie besides maybe the Hela lightning bolt. We also never saw Thor fight Thanos, why because without his hammer it was pointless. In the opening IW scene it wasn't Thor that was used to push Thanos it was Hulk. Apparently Thor is almost as strong as Hulk according to some posters, so why when the two fight is Thor always the one that gets launched? Thor also bleeds in EVERY movie, no way is Thor MORE durable than Hulk. His damage soak certainly rivals but Hulk isn't getting bled from one punch to the nose. Look at all the attacks Thor landed in Ragnarok yet Hulk never bled once and was chilling in his tub after the fight like it was all in days work.
Originally posted by The SorrowThor was wrecking Hulk until he got unfairly 2v1'd by Grandmaster. Everyone but you and Quanchii knows that. Also, Thor Launched Hulk WAY HARDER than Hulk did to Thor in Ragnarok. Did you even watch the movie? Thor had an arena hammer and sent Hulk flying so hard and far that the entire crowd, including GM were in awe. Hulk then decided to cheaphot and ragdoll Thor to no effect. Thor just got up and brushed it off with no injuries at all. Also, don't talk to me about bleeding. Hulk was bleeding from Chitari weapons in Avengers 1 and was looking like they were wrecking his shit. I could also say the same thing about all the blows Hulk landed on Thor and he wasn't bleeding either.
So nothing? 😂 Post is full of bias, mentioning Hulk breathing in space as some kind of mark against him... in durability... interesting.Thor got ko'd by Hulk and was left sore and badly bruised afterwards, no punch delivered by Hulk in the main arena fight was comparable to the punch he took Thor out with. Thor never ko'd Hulk despite hitting him with his 2 biggest attacks in the entire movie besides maybe the Hela lightning bolt. We also never saw Thor fight Thanos, why because without his hammer it was pointless. In the opening IW scene it wasn't Thor that was used to push Thanos it was Hulk. Apparently Thor is almost as strong as Hulk according to some posters, so why when the two fight is Thor always the one that gets launched? Thor also bleeds in EVERY movie, no way is Thor MORE durable than Hulk. His damage soak certainly rivals but Hulk isn't getting bled from one punch to the nose. Look at all the attacks Thor landed in Ragnarok yet Hulk never bled once and was chilling in his tub after the fight like it was all in days work.
Bottom line is this, Hulk has a worse ass kicked per appearance record than Thor does, despite having fought less foes and certainly less powerful foes. That's pure fact.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor was wrecking Hulk until he got unfairly 2v1'd by Grandmaster. Everyone but you and Quanchii knows that. Also, Thor Launched Hulk WAY HARDER than Hulk did to Thor in Ragnarok. Did you even watch the movie? Thor had an arena hammer and sent Hulk flying so hard and far that the entire crowd, including GM were in awe. Hulk then decided to cheaphot and ragdoll Thor to no effect. Thor just got up and brushed it off with no injuries at all. Also, don't talk to me about bleeding. Hulk was bleeding from Chitari weapons in Avengers 1 and was looking like they were wrecking his shit. I could also say the same thing about all the blows Hulk landed on Thor and he wasn't bleeding either.Bottom line is this, Hulk has a worse ass kicked per appearance record than Thor does, despite having fought less foes and certainly less powerful foes. That's pure fact.
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Originally posted by The Sorrow
Based on what? Just because Thor gets his ass kicked far more than Hulk does doesn't mean he has better durability.
Even prior to IW, Thor took massive beatings from Hulk. Whilst Hulk was struggling to stand up after 2 Lightning punches from Thor.
So either Thor is more durable, or his Lightning punches are ridiculously stronger than Hulks punches.
Take your pick.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
....superior feats? That's not an excuse.And your logic that Thor gets his ass kicked more holds no water. The first time Hulk faced anyone of note was Fenris, and he barely won that through bfr, he was having serious problems there. Surtur casually smacked him away, and Thanos took his lunch money. Even Thor was the favourite in pure h2h when he went god mode in Ragnarok.
If Hulk was facing beings like Kurse, Malekith, and Hela like Thor had, he'd be taking a pounding too but tbh, I can't justify him being more durable anymore. In Avengers 1, he managed to draw a bit of blood with a punch. In Ragnarok, an extended ground and pound didn't even scratch Thor. Thor's invulnerability has improved, which was the only category Hulk has an edge imo.
Are you bringing up getting thrown away by FP Surtur (even though Hulk seemingly effected him more than Hela did), and getting worked by Thanos (when Thor was seemingly stomped to an easier degree) as bad showings? Bro, Thor got slapped around by Ultron and knocked himself over with Hulks inflatable ball so let's not even go the lower end showing route.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Thor was wrecking Hulk until he got unfairly 2v1'd by Grandmaster. Everyone but you and Quanchii knows that. Also, Thor Launched Hulk WAY HARDER than Hulk did to Thor in Ragnarok. Did you even watch the movie? Thor had an arena hammer and sent Hulk flying so hard and far that the entire crowd, including GM were in awe. Hulk then decided to cheaphot and ragdoll Thor to no effect. Thor just got up and brushed it off with no injuries at all. Also, don't talk to me about bleeding. Hulk was bleeding from Chitari weapons in Avengers 1 and was looking like they were wrecking his shit. I could also say the same thing about all the blows Hulk landed on Thor and he wasn't bleeding either.Bottom line is this, Hulk has a worse ass kicked per appearance record than Thor does, despite having fought less foes and certainly less powerful foes. That's pure fact.
If that was the original message you wanted to push you should've just said that, it's such a pointless distinction to make but I'm bored at the moment so let's see... Thor has been ko'd at least 3x, was incapacitated by Kurse and Thanos, bled from Loki, struggled with regular suit Iron Man, manhandled by Hulk in Avengers 1 and Ultron in A2 among other less-than-flattering showings all within the space of 6 movies? Hulk was hurt by the Chitari army, incapacitated by Thanos, ko'd by Hulkbuster and bled when was bitten by Fenris. Nothing really unexpected the Hulkbuster wasn't a clean loss and Hulk has appeared in 4 movies? I'd rather have Hulks record tbh, his only legit loss was to Thanos, and has only really seemed hurt against the Chitari army.