Thor/Bill/Jane vs HP Doomsday

Originally posted by abhilegend
But you said it was irrelevant against Loki, how is it suddenly relevant here?

Due to the paradoxical nature of two different timeline mjolnirs brought together.

Get it, halfwit Thorbag?

Gorr wasn't beaten by the two mjolnirs. The God bomb was absorbed by Thor using mjolnirs.

No space/time ruptured there. And it was literally said to be a time paradox.

to be fair thor absorbing the god bomb across all space time is still universal or even above. the scope is ridiclous considering it was past, present and future killing all gods

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
to be fair thor absorbing the god bomb across all space time is still universal or even above. the scope is ridiclous considering it was past, present and future killing all gods

Originally posted by abhilegend
How is that relevant against Doomsday?

Because based on that feat Mjolnir is universal in potency?

In energy absorption? Maybe. How is that relevant against Doomsday?

Originally posted by abhilegend
In energy absorption? Maybe. How is that relevant against Doomsday?

You're acting as if Jane hasn't hurt Mangog, or Bill cracking Galan armor, or Thor beating Odin level beings before

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
You're acting as if Jane hasn't hurt Mangog, or Bill cracking Galan armor, or Thor beating Odin level beings before

Without BFR, he takes it every time.

"most of the jl has done similiar"

examples?

during that time the JL weren't as powerful as they are now, wally still had mental blocks, nukes were a threat to superman, etc

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
"most of the jl has done similiar"

examples?

during that time the JL weren't as powerful as they are now, wally still had mental blocks, nukes were a threat to superman, etc

Another thing to remember is that H/P Doomsday = DD Wars Doomsday = OWAW Doomsday. OWAW Doomsday was going through Imperiex Probes like butter, alongside all-out Superman. And we saw how the combined Justice League [and more] were doing against them.

So we have a guy who:
- nearly killed Darkseid [skyfather]
- shitstomped the whole Justice League [Wonder Woman, Orion, Martian Manhunter, Flash, Plastic Man etc.]
- went through ridiculous number of Imperiex Probes, for days, like paper. When Imperiex Probes were shitstomping the rest in much, much smaller numbers.
etc.

This...isn't even close.

DOS Doomsday was confirmed to be>HP

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
DOS Doomsday was confirmed to be>HP

I don't think you know how Doomsday works.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
DOS Doomsday was confirmed to be>HP

You can't believe the hype that's being brought up to pretend that HP DD was unstoppable. He may have been unstoppable to the characters facing him during Hunter Prey, but this does not somehow translate to being unstoppable to forces that he had yet to face. Don't believe the hype.

and are you seriously basing a win on Doomsday because he slaugthered tons of probes?

Either Thor could replicate the same feat

Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm

Thor had vibranium which stopped the stone. Context really doesn't matters at comicvine, does it?

How did vibran8um stop the stone when it was unraveling his armor in the scan ?
The vibranium didn't stop the stone until after the explosion.

we see the Vibranium not stop it as it unravels on his arm and only takes his armor .

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
and are you seriously basing a win on Doomsday because he slaugthered tons of probes?

Either Thor could replicate the same feat

I like football, but I don't like to keep scoring on moving goalposts.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
and are you seriously basing a win on Doomsday because he slaugthered tons of probes?

Either Thor could replicate the same feat

I'm thinking that the expectation is that Thor/Jane/Bill are supposed to fight like the rest of the JL without taking into account that they never ever need to get close to DD in order to burn the flesh off of him. DD has never once faced this kind of power, and thus he would have no defense against it.

Then we have people saying that Darkseid was a Sky Father, when he was a peer of Orion's in terms of power, which automatically launches Orion up into the Sky Father ranks without warrant, and since Superman can beat the shit out of either, it launches him even higher. What does that say about Wonder Woman recently doing better than Zeus against Darkseid if we choose to ignore context?

Originally posted by Stoic
I'm thinking that the expectation is that Thor/Jane/Bill are supposed to fight like the rest of the JL without taking into account that they never ever need to get close to DD in order to burn the flesh off of him. DD has never once faced this kind of power, and thus he would have no defense against it.

Then we have people saying that Darkseid was a Sky Father, when he was a peer of Orion's in terms of power, which automatically launches Orion up into the Sky Father ranks without warrant, and since Superman can beat the shit out of either, it launches him even higher. What does that say about Wonder Woman recently doing better than Zeus against Darkseid if we choose to ignore context?

it's what we call faulty power scaling

there's even already a bit of reach even though it shows the explosion in both Thors face and on his arm prior

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
You're acting as if Jane hasn't hurt Mangog, or Bill cracking Galan armor, or Thor beating Odin level beings before

Same writer actually showed the clear difference between hungry Galactus and fed when he casually one shotted an armada that dropped him while he was hungry. Mind you he had a little more rumbly in his tumbly than normal, but still.

The way Fraction shit on Galactus is a lot more relevant and meaningful to Thor than putting a little crack in some armor.
If my name was Marcus, I'd use that instead.

Entropy works against DD, not because of the power level (i.e. the energy levels) but because of what it is (DD is being attacked by the literal end of all things).

Equating slamming two Mjolnirs together isn't quite the same. No doubt, 100% agree, it's powerful. But it doesn't mean it works because of it's power levels.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Bill cracking Galactus' armor was just that, cracking armor. He was also one shotting planets with the same wind ups and Galactus was hungry.

Same writer actually showed the clear difference between hungry Galactus and fed when he casually one shotted an armada that dropped him while he was hungry. Mind you he had a little more rumbly in his tumbly than normal, but still.

The way Fraction shit on Galactus is a lot more relevant and meaningful to Thor than putting a little crack in some armor.
If my name was Marcus, I'd use that instead.

all out thor alone is a worthy opponent for DD

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
all out thor alone is a worthy opponent for DD