Thor/Bill/Jane vs HP Doomsday

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
My man, I can't keep correcting you every time you misread my post. Go back and re-read what I said. I said they don't have the expertise of Jane and Thor, and so, their performance is irrelevant.

But one of the major showings was done by them just before they fought Loki.

How is it irrelevant for them but usable for the team here?

Yes, AGAINST KANG, they used two Mjolnir's to weaponize a time paradox to defeat him.

You sure left time paradox there.

In a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT COMIC, banging two Mjolnir's was also used to defeat Ultron Prime by summoning the primordial lighting that created the Universe:
https://imgur.com/QR3sIaV

By the paradoxical nature of the mjolnirs clashing together.

It's a one off showing and hardly shows that this would happen every time when just a short time later it was contradicted by the avengers comic.

I'm not saying he'll do the former, but the latter if that was the tactic they used to hang two hammers. Ultimately, my point here is that there is more than enough combined fire power here to put Doomsday down for a win.

Only if you go to the most extreme showings. Orion himself has contained and negated a bomb which was destroying the universe.

Guess what happened to him against Doomsday

Originally posted by Stoic
Darkseid said that Orion and Superman were his peers. Best go back and read that again. It made print. Not the point either, so no point in following that discussion to it's conclusion.

He said Superman was his physical peer and Orion had infinite rage.

No need to exaggerate it.

The Thor's possess enough power among them to remain out of DD's range, and blast the flesh off of him without people calling PIS if it happened in a comic.

How about no, they are not capable of doing that unless you want to go to the most extreme showings they have.

This is hardly an outlandish conclusion to come to.

It is.

Infinite rage

Originally posted by abhilegend
But one of the major showings was done by them just before they fought Loki.

How is it irrelevant for them but usable for the team here?

You sure left time paradox there.

By the paradoxical nature of the mjolnirs clashing together.

It's a one off showing and hardly shows that this would happen every time when just a short time later it was contradicted by the avengers comic.

Only if you go to the most extreme showings. Orion himself has contained and negated a bomb which was destroying the universe.

Guess what happened to him against Doomsday

1) Two Mjolnir's in the same moment like in this thread would always be paradoxical, so irrelevant.
2) Jane owning Kang by banging two Mjolnir's together does not contradict Jane banging two Mjolnir's, and using the lighting of creation to one-shot an amped Skyfather.

Yo, Nav, I don't know how else to explain this to you: Every time two Mjolnir's have been together, it's always ended in an extreme showing.

SMH I'm not mentioning Thor zapping him with lightning capable of affecting the Chaos King, trapping him in an indestructible force field or a dozen other one off showings that would make Doomsday his sex slave. These are not one off showings, that's the entire point.

Two Mjolnir's have consistently demonstrated a power beyond Doomsday. It's only ever used in extreme scenarios, that's why the showings are batting 100 in the feats department fool.

We both know if there was some low showing, this thread would be 10 pages of your dumbass going nuh-uh, Mjolnir SUCKS.

This will be my last post on the matter as it's getting tedious: Doomsday gets in close. Bad day. They play smart, Doomsday goes bye-bye.

I'm 99% sure your account is a rotating crew of IT guys outsourced by Philosocuck to enter Superman threads.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1) Two Mjolnir's in the same moment like in this thread would always be paradoxical, so irrelevant.

This will be my last post on the matter as it's getting tedious: Doomsday gets in close. Bad day. They play smart, Doomsday goes bye-bye.

I'm 99% sure your account is a rotating crew of IT guys outsourced by Philosocuck to enter Superman threads.

Thor acting smart? Oxymoron in itself.

You're just a Alvaro Thor board spambot at this point.

Hitting the two hammers will not put DD down.
The feat caused damage to inside manyrealms. But in each realm the damage wasn't enough to damage DD.
In other words, DD, being anywhere in the multiverse, wouldn't received damage when the two hammers collided.

So the feat is irrelevant really.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not in this thread.

Of course it is.

But I guess Superman can just whistle anyone away because he destroyed Darkseid who had become everything in the multiverse.

You're acting like Thor is the only one who gets these kinds of outlier feats.

Not every time, no.

Right, because two mjolnir are more powerful than Odin.

Makes sense. Hence why four mjolnir copies that broke mjolnir itself only destroyed a mountain.

Creating a time paradox is hardly a power beyond Doomsday.

Well yes, mjolnir sucks. It got destroyed in the sun after all.

Thor acting smart? Oxymoron in itself.

You're just a Alvaro Thor board spambot at this point.

No, nuh-uh etc.

Waste of time.

Side note: Two Mjolnir's would now, have an in-story reason to surpass a Skyfather outside of "comics" due to the Motherstorm.

Let’s stop using the motherstorm excuse please

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t pretend it wasn’t a retcon in one thread and use it now to help your debate

Besides, it’s already confirmed that the motherstorm was weakened by its fight with Odin before it was locked away. No mention of it having recovered. Unless of course you’re going to start telling people that Thor is sky father level now

What exactly is the "motherstorm excuse"?

Take a minute, and re-read my posts please, my lost little lamb. I noted that the Mother Storm would give us an in-story reason now as to why TWO Mjolnir's would be capable of surpassing levels of a Skyfather outside of "comics!". It has nothing to do with my stance in this thread.

Also, what do you mean "pretend it wasn't a retcon"? The Motherstorm was clearly a completely new revelation that was never expected...?

That's a pretty conclusive statement about something that is very vague. Can I have a scan of this confirmation? I specifically recall, the Mother Storm getting worn down by Odin before getting trapped in Uru...but getting worn down in an extended fight before finally getting trapped is very different than being weakened permanently. It also flies in the face of the plot that Odin had Mjolnir forged in the first place so he could possess such raw power himself.

The Motherstorm has nothing to do with my argument here, I mentioned it as an aside on pretty much my last post in this thread, but since you've jumped on this like Stilt on the office secretary, put your money with your mouth is boy.

And no, Thor isn't Skyfather level. But Mjolnir is definitely a Skyfather level weapon under Aaron imo because it's so desirable even by entities on that level. It's always been a special hammer but it's different now, even when you control for Odin being a hobo. Unless it's the Sun of course. Just the Earth's Sun specifically.

Things are getting heated. Only Carver9 threads can do this.

Team wins.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What exactly is the "motherstorm excuse"?

Take a minute, and re-read my posts please, my lost little lamb. I noted that the Mother Storm would give us an in-story reason now as to why TWO Mjolnir's would be capable of surpassing levels of a Skyfather outside of "comics!". It has nothing to do with my stance in this thread.

Also, what do you mean "pretend it wasn't a retcon"? The Motherstorm was clearly a completely new revelation that was never expected...?

That's a pretty conclusive statement about something that is very vague. Can I have a scan of this confirmation? I specifically recall, the Mother Storm getting worn down by Odin before getting trapped in Uru...but getting worn down in an extended fight before finally getting trapped is very different than being weakened permanently. It also flies in the face of the plot that Odin had Mjolnir forged in the first place so he could possess such raw power himself.

The Motherstorm has nothing to do with my argument here, I mentioned it as an aside on pretty much my last post in this thread, but since you've jumped on this like Stilt on the office secretary, put your money with your mouth is boy.

And no, Thor isn't Skyfather level. But Mjolnir is definitely a Skyfather level weapon under Aaron imo because it's so desirable even by entities on that level. It's always been a special hammer but it's different now, even when you control for Odin being a hobo. Unless it's the Sun of course. Just the Earth's Sun specifically.

The mother storm was weakened. Whether you want to say “worn down” or weakened doesn’t change anything. We saw how big the storm was when Odin first confronted it; we also know how big the storm was after it was released by a Mjolnir breaking. Everything point to it being weakened. We have no reason to assume it can or did recover while locked away

Yes, I agree before and after the motherstorm retcon, the hammer is relatively a sky father weapon. Less so now considering it can be destroyed relatively easy but still, I agree.

Carver9, nothing is getting heated..well except you whenever Hulk is mentioned.
Rage and I are both in agreement here; team can pull wins here especially if they use their full force at once at the beginning of the fight IE: 3x god blast... we just disagree on the amount of victories. I don’t think they can pull a majority without us controlling the Thor’s and telling them what to do.

This is more of an issue of CIS/PIS. The same way Wally can potentially steal the kinetic energy of any one below abstract (or arguably skyfather), I don’t go into threads saying he can pull a majority with this tactic alone unless specified. This is mostly because while Wally can steal speed, he doesn’t do this often for me to assume he’d do it every fight unless I’m controlling Wally

It’s quite different when it comes to Superman speed blitzing because of the type of power set this is and how often he actually does it. So I don’t think the Thors will be doing a unified GodBlast at the beginning of the fight for majority of their fights.

Edit: stupid iPhone autocorrect

No one should ever buy an Iphone. Samsung is the way to go.

I can’t handle the Samsung bloatware
And I don’t have the patience to remove them using by flashing

Originally posted by carver9
No one should ever buy an Iphone. Samsung is the way to go.

Carver, I'm going to have you tickle my pickle if you keep this up.

I watch 99% of my porn on my IPhone.

Samsung does have bloatware but at the end of the day, you get more bang for you buck. A lot more bang tbh and the phones just look better. iPhones are basic. Example of this is, I can watch porn while at the same time scrolling through face book looking through my pics of stilt. I can have porn playing while watching youtube on the other side of my screen while also scrolling through my xbox app (3 screens up at one time). That's just a tiny fraction of what i can do on my Note 8.

where's it stated that marvel universes are infinite in size? scans pls

Originally posted by carver9
Samsung does have bloatware but at the end of the day, you get more bang for you buck. A lot more bang tbh and the phones just look better. iPhones are basic. Example of this is, I can watch porn while at the same time scrolling through face book looking through my pics of stilt. I can have porn playing while watching youtube on the other side of my screen while also scrolling through my xbox app (3 screens up at one time). That's just a tiny fraction of what i can do on my Note 8.

Note: my s9+ is a little smoother than iPhone in web browsing.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, nuh-uh etc.

Waste of time.

Side note: Two Mjolnir's would now, have an in-story reason to surpass a Skyfather outside of "comics" due to the Motherstorm.

Uh-huh.