i gotta say, i have no idea how someone would go about proving ss>superman in terms of tactics and use of powers.... superman does far more with far less imo. superman blue also used his powers pretty creatively, and he had them for less than an eye-blink compared to how long ss has had his powers. to win most fights, ss shouldn't really ever even have to move, let alone, fly around, get hit and blast people... /shrug
of course that would be boring, so between the way both are depicted, i'm not sure how anyone can say ss is more 'tactical' than superman. h2h, no powers, kal would kill norrin radd without much trouble too.
Originally posted by carver9
I think the discussion here is with powers though. Debating powerset, NO Herald stands a chance against Surfer. None. He could pull a 10/10 against any of them, and easily.
But speed is a power.
You keep forgetting that.
I mean, based on powerset alone.....Mr X has skill, precog, AND a Skyfather level weapon.
Means jack all. All QS has is his iron pipe and speed.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But speed is a power.You keep forgetting that.
I mean, based on powerset alone.....Mr X has skill, precog, AND a Skyfather level weapon.
Means jack all. All QS has is his iron pipe and speed.
Still dont get what you're trying to prove here. Surfer blitzed Nova Prime so fast that Nova thought he was hit by a blast and yes, Nova have FTL showings. Superman isnt blitzing Surfer.
Originally posted by carver9
Still dont get what you're trying to prove here. Surfer blitzed Nova Prime so fast that Nova thought he was hit by a blast and yes, Nova have FTL showings. Superman isnt blitzing Surfer.
Yet, Nova managed to evade him after the sucker punch 🙂
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/47437/1356283-nova14dcp005.jpg
Hope you're not using this scan:
http://i.imgur.com/EMw7F8K.jpg
Because that only shows 0.6 FTL. Not FTL.
And Nova was still outpacing him 🙂:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47437/1356285-nova14dcp010f.jpg
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yet, Nova managed to evade him after the sucker punch 🙂
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/4/47437/1356283-nova14dcp005.jpgHope you're not using this scan:
http://i.imgur.com/EMw7F8K.jpgBecause that only shows 0.6 FTL. Not FTL.
And Nova was still outpacing him 🙂:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47437/1356285-nova14dcp010f.jpg
Wouldnt consider a blitz a sucker punch.
Did you read your scan? I'm sure you see something or someone telling Nova to evade, right?
Who said I'm using that scan? I said Nova have FTL showings.
Originally posted by carver9
Wouldnt consider a blitz a sucker punch.Did you read your scan? I'm sure you see something or someone telling Nova to evade, right?
Who said I'm using that scan? I said Nova have FTL showings.
Lol course you wouldn't.
Exactly. Which means that Worldmind (you know, the one who has the reactions?) is able to keep up with Surfer. Able to know who it is who is attacking them. Telling Richard to evade. etc.
So much for Surfer being all that fast, lol.
Did you then see Nova outpacing Surfer? Am sure you did.
Originally posted by Philosophía
👆I've already asked Leo if he is willing to judge sometimes in the near future, since I assume we'd both be good with him, if that's ok. Any other suggestions? There's plenty of time until we start, so no hurry.
Yeah Leo, shady as he is, will be fine. 👆
What about setting?
Post limit? I was thinking 3?
Also are you okay starting June 11th? I know its a long way out but I'll be free for sure after that !
Originally posted by Damborgson👆
Yeah Leo, shady as he is, will be fine. 👆What about setting?
Post limit? I was thinking 3?
Also are you okay starting June 11th? I know its a long way out but I'll be free for sure after that !
I'm ok with that.
We'll see out the other details somewhen between your tourney finishing and that date.
Originally posted by carver9
[B]People can bash Ironman all they want but the guy is durable when he is armored up. He has withstood hits from Namor, to Wonderman, from Thor to cosmic Heralds like Surfer and even Sentry and Starbrand. I cant think of a time where Tony has been one shot koed. Someone is entitled to fill me in on that. Anyways, his gets out of his normal armor and ramps up in a more powerful armor. He unleash 100% maximum power on Hulk who walks through it and takes him out in a single hit.]
Still waiting on a time when Tony 'ramping up' in a 'more powerful armour' has ever helped him.
Thorbuster?
Phoenixbuster?
Hulkbuster 1?
2?
3?
Magnetobuster?
Where is this god of prep? Where is the guy who transcends the herald tier when he 'ramps up'?
Originally posted by Damborgson
I would like to hear a proper response to this actually,
It's true. Amazo, for example. But there's a difference between teleporting someone to another solar system, and sending someone to another continent...
Different levels of BFR.
Edit: what about HP DD??
the point was never about bfr. That's why the vs challenge was modified to Mags with no BFR.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol course you wouldn't.Exactly. Which means that Worldmind (you know, the one who has the reactions?) is able to keep up with Surfer. Able to know who it is who is attacking them. Telling Richard to evade. etc.
So much for Surfer being all that fast, lol.
Did you then see Nova outpacing Surfer? Am sure you did.
Worldmind is just as fast as Nova (faster), so this makes your point irrelevant.
Lol... I did see Surfer chasing Nova. How fast was Nova going though? Let me do better than what you did with those scans. Here is Superman chasing Kismit... straining to catch up with her. He even tells us he have to pour on the speed. The thing about this is, he tells us that she is flying many times the speed of sound... lol, and he still had to pour on his speed and struggle to catch her.
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/38612490/image.jpg.html
I feel confident both Surfer and Nova wouldve done that showing with ease.
