Hulk VS Magneto · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But that was just normal sand,no? Or was it amped with Old Power?

It is normal and, coming from a guy who controls Old power. It's like saying Swamp Thing and Poison Ivy plants are just normal when we've seen them contain extremely powerful beings.

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Originally posted by carver9
It is normal and, coming from a guy who controls Old power. It's like saying Swamp Thing and Poison Ivy plants are just normal when we've seen them contain extremely powerful beings.

Yeah....so normal items with no special properties, being hurled by a guy with incredible control. So like Magneto, then.

As for Hawkeye, there's obv Nuul (an amped Savage Hulk - or an amped WWH, whatever you want to use. Main point here is, he's amped):
http://i.imgur.com/5SKlcGY.jpg

Savage:
http://i.imgur.com/f6Z274N.jpg

Nul again:
http://i.imgur.com/AbN2IAa.jpg

Saying Hulk would laugh it off, when much larger items (sand is like...1000s of times larger than nano particles, lol) at much slower speeds (unless those sand grains there were going massively hypersonic) have punched holes in the Hulk. Cap's shield, going much slower than 9500mph, sliced his head clean off.

Medium grade sand is ~0.5mm in diameter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand)

0.5mm is....500,000nanometres, lol. Hulk is literally being punctured by something 500 THOUSAND times larger than what Magneto can and has casually used.

My point is not that Mags punches holes in the Hulk. But slices through his neck (a metal disc 1nanometre in thickness?). And he can easily use his own helmet, and has done so before (and let's be honest here, its hardly a 'high' showing....he's just flinging bits of metal, lol. It's his bread and butter. I'm not saying hey, here he is controlling a Celestial's nervous system, he can also control the Hulk lololol.

And sure, that was only ONE point I made. I am sure there are others.

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I mean. Here we all are, jizzing over the current Hulk's throwing off of Herc and Thor with a flex...when Mags has done similar...

AND he was holding back...

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Abhilegend is basically autistic. You're bringing up the Greg Pak, in a fight with the Hulk, to...make Hulk look bad?

Right, because sand is so powerful.

Turning Hulk into Swiss cheese will do nothing but make him angrier. His showings strongly support Magneto not being able to do any damage to put him down.

Right, Hulk wasn't finished by having his guts open.

That never happened too, right?

Hulk is already almost healed by the fourth panel. Pak also established that only sufficiently strong stuff, like earth material manipulated by old strong power (Far more powerful than Magneto post the Galactus story line) and Adamantium etc. can injure him if he's not weakened.

Or Magneto who can do more than Skaar ever can with old power.

How about we see who can produce more force, Magneto vs Skaar? You game?

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah....so normal items with no special properties, being hurled by a guy with incredible control. So like Magneto, then.
As for Hawkeye, there's obv Nuul (an amped Savage Hulk - or an amped WWH, whatever you want to use. Main point here is, he's amped):
http://i.imgur.com/5SKlcGY.jpg
Savage:
http://i.imgur.com/f6Z274N.jpg
Nul again:
http://i.imgur.com/AbN2IAa.jpg
Saying Hulk would laugh it off, when much larger items (sand is like...1000s of times larger than nano particles, lol) at much slower speeds (unless those sand grains there were going massively hypersonic) have punched holes in the Hulk. Cap's shield, going much slower than 9500mph, sliced his head clean off.
My point is [b]not that Mags punches holes in the Hulk. But slices through his neck (a metal disc 1nanometre in thickness?). And he can easily use his own helmet, and has done so before (and let's be honest here, its hardly a 'high' showing....he's just flinging bits of metal, lol. It's his bread and butter. I'm not saying hey, here he is controlling a Celestial's nervous system, he can also control the Hulk lololol.
And sure, that was only ONE point I made. I am sure there are others. [/B]

Then you'll have to prove that the Old Strong the same as Magneto Power and I doubt that. The proof that I have is that Caiera covered herself in just rock and ore and was able to stomp both Surfer and Skaar in her appearance as Hulk...

Here she tells you what she is covered in. Basic minerals from the planet.

https://i.imgur.com/Mv31DpF.png

Tanks a hit from Skaar and Skaar sword breaks on her...

https://i.imgur.com/xLSTnl8.png

Tanks an ax hit from Skaar directly in the face.

https://i.imgur.com/CPVT6Oq.png

Outright tank attacks from Surfer while scrubbing him up (Surfer was on the brink of losing this fight).

https://i.imgur.com/rIIDCch.png

So yes, the Ole Power amps the rock or whatever it is controlling. I'm not saying this because of the controlling factor, I'm saying this because on panel, this has been proven.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Right, because sand is so powerful.
Right, Hulk wasn't finished by having his guts open.
That never happened too, right?
Or Magneto who can do more than Skaar ever can with old power.
How about we see who can produce more force, Magneto vs Skaar? You game?

Chaos King amped Abomination. It's like me posting Despero clawing Superman across the face as evidence of him having weak durability. You do know Superman almost died from having 3 blades stabbed clean through his chest when he was trying to stop Brainiac ship? Dont be a sometimer.

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Originally posted by carver9
Then you'll have to prove that the Old Strong the same as Magneto Power and I doubt that. The proof that I have is that Caiera covered herself in just rock and ore and was able to stomp both Surfer and Skaar in her appearance as Hulk...
Here she tells you what she is covered in. Basic minerals from the planet.
https://i.imgur.com/Mv31DpF.png
Tanks a hit from Skaar and Skaar sword breaks on her...
https://i.imgur.com/xLSTnl8.png
Tanks an ax hit from Skaar directly in the face.
https://i.imgur.com/CPVT6Oq.png
Outright tank attacks from Surfer while scrubbing him up (Surfer was on the brink of losing this fight).
https://i.imgur.com/rIIDCch.png
So yes, the Ole Power amps the rock or whatever it is controlling. I'm not saying this because of the controlling factor, I'm saying this because on panel, this has been proven.

Well, Old Power is nice - but Magneto's power is one of the fundamental forces of the universe. He controls the EM force. So yeah, unless the Old Power is one of the fundamental forces, it is less than EM.

But that is by the by. You showing Caiera is lovely and nice, but this is Skaar.

And, this is the most important part - you have already said it was just normal sand.

So you will have to prove that the sand used with Hulk, was amped. If you can't, then we default to it being normal sand, but being controlled by a powerful, skilled user.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Originally posted by carver9
Chaos King amped Abomination.

You don't even read those comics, do you?

Damn it, carver. I'd love to side with the Hulk here, but you're making it impossible.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by carver9
Chaos King amped Abomination. It's like me posting Despero clawing Superman across the face as evidence of him having weak durability. You do know Superman almost died from having 3 blades stabbed clean through his chest when he was trying to stop Brainiac ship? Dont be a sometimer.

😂

You're not even worth a reply. Now Superman is involved somehow.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Never said bullets pierced Hulk (Hawkeye's arrows do though!).

Nowhere in the scans you posted there was any piercing done by Clint's arrows.

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The taser arrow did. The explosive arrows all went into his back...

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The taser arrow did. The explosive arrows all went into his back...

Have you seen the arrows tips?

They can become attached to surfaces via sucker tips and so on.

https://previews.123rf.com/images/jiripravda/jiripravda1407/jiripravda140700059/30510171-bow-arrow-with-black-sucker-tip.jpg

Even with Chris Bachalo's awful art, it's painfully clear they didn't have pointy ends.

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Then why is Nul going Hargh! When the taser arrow hits?

Surely the impact isn't that great...this is Nul, theshatterer of adamantium nets, it shouldn't even be a tickle..

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, Old Power is nice - but Magneto's power is one of the fundamental forces of the universe. He controls the EM force. So yeah, unless the Old Power is one of the fundamental forces, it is less than EM.
But that is by the by. You showing Caiera is lovely and nice, but this is Skaar.
And, this is the most important part - [b]you have already said it was just normal sand.
So you will have to prove that the sand used with Hulk, was amped. If you can't, then we default to it being normal sand, but being controlled by a powerful, skilled user. [/B]

Lol... Magneto controls normal metal. Do you think its alien metal or something. I dont have to prove that it was amped by Old Power. That is exactly what used to throw the sand.

And why are we posting Hulk supposedly low? Sebastian Shaw gave Magneto the fight of his life. Imagine what Hulk would do...

Sebastian broke out of every piece of metal he threw ar him. He's at best Namor level. And he came out without a scratch.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Nowhere in the scans you posted there was any piercing done by Clint's arrows.

Exactly. Dont know why I didnt catch that scan be posted.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then why is Nul going Hargh! When the taser arrow hits?
Surely the impact isn't that great...this is Nul, theshatterer of adamantium nets, it shouldn't even be a tickle..

So now you're saying Nul is Hulk?

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂
You're not even worth a reply. Now Superman is involved somehow.

With you, we have to involve him. That's your language.

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Lol.

Read your own scans.

'BUILT INTO MY SUIT IS A DEVICE THAT CAN REVERSE POLARITIES, ALLOWING ME TO FLING THIS METAL OFF!!'

Shaw was prepped with a special device. If Banner could make one, sure. Standard equipment, I'm sure!!

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You don't even read those comics, do you?
Damn it, carver. I'd love to side with the Hulk here, but you're making it impossible.

That was devil hulk. My bad.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then why is Nul going Hargh! When the taser arrow hits?
Surely the impact isn't that great...this is Nul, theshatterer of adamantium nets, it shouldn't even be a tickle..

Because it was written by Bendis and he was screaming like a retard every two panels.

Arrow didn't penetrate him. There's no blood, nothing...

You can ask anyone else... here, in Comic Book Questions thread... doubtful even the biggest gamma haters will agree with you on that one.

But you want to play your game with carver, I'm not gonna stop you. It's been going forever, nobody and nothing can stop it. Cyttorak's enchantment looks poor in comparison to your rivalry.