What Jordan Peterson says

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Jordan Peterson's All-Beef Diet Sounds an Awful Lot Like Vapid Pseudoscience

Canadian psychology professor Jordan Peterson, a very serious thought leader who believes that men would be less violent if only women were legally required to have sex with them, recently sat for a lengthy interview with Helen Lewis and our across-the-pond colleagues at British GQ. Most of their conversation focused on the pet peeves for which he is known best: feminism, political correctness, and so on. One notable digression, however, concerned the peculiar way that Peterson apparently fuels his brand of vapid pseudointellectualism: He claims to adhere to an all-beef diet.

"Really? Just beef? Can you have, like, ketchup on it?" Lewis asks, with the weary sigh of someone who has just been politely informed that the airline has no record of any reservation under their name. "No, nothing," he replies. "It isn't something I would lightly recommend." He goes on to characterize the regimen as "a little hard on your social life," as if his permanent dead-eyed stare and long-winded expositions on the hazards of "cultural Marxism" weren't already enough to make him North America's suckiest party guest.

Is this your intellectual?

Canadian psychology professor Jordan Peterson, a very serious thought leader who believes that men would be less violent if only women were legally required to have sex with them, recently sat for a lengthy interview with Helen Lewis and our across-the-pond colleagues at British GQ. Most of their conversation focused on the pet peeves for which he is known best: feminism, political correctness, and so on. One notable digression, however, concerned the peculiar way that Peterson apparently fuels his brand of vapid pseudointellectualism: He claims to adhere to an all-beef diet.

"Really? Just beef? Can you have, like, ketchup on it?" Lewis asks, with the weary sigh of someone who has just been politely informed that the airline has no record of any reservation under their name. "No, nothing," he replies. "It isn't something I would lightly recommend." He goes on to characterize the regimen as "a little hard on your social life," as if his permanent dead-eyed stare and long-winded expositions on the hazards of "cultural Marxism" weren't already enough to make him North America's suckiest party guest.

It turns out that Peterson's inspiration is his 26-year-old daughter Mikhaila, who told The Atlantic that she began experimenting with elimination diets a few years ago in an effort to address a laundry list of maladies. When only beef, salt, and water remained, her symptoms began disappearing. ("Strangely enough," she notes, her body can still "tolerate" bourbon and vodka.) Today, her father professes to have realized the same types of miraculous results: He told Lewis that he's lost 50 pounds in seven months, stopped snoring, shed unspecified autoimmune conditions, and stopped taking antidepressants altogether. He did not address whether this life choice has helped to curb his penchant for trafficking in boring sexism disguised as groundbreaking academic thought. Perhaps a few more months of hamburger patties will tell. -snip

Peterson's politics aside, that can not be healthy for the body or the mind, only eating beef.

Only thing I've read [yeas ago] that is similar is a man who had severe reactions to most foods, so he went on raw meat diet and occasionally adds some plain mixed greens in small quantities. But he also raises the animals he eats and he eats as much of the animal as possible, organs and all, which will provide a wider variety of nutrients and vitamins than solely eating cooked animal muscle fiber.

Originally posted by Robtard
who believes that men would be less violent if only women were legally required to have sex with them,

Source?

Um, as much as I set you people off, please realize that I am not in any form associated with GQ magazine, so you making it seem like I said that with quote editing is rather weak and frail.

Anyhow, I posted the article to discuss the all-beef diet thing, you'll note that in my opening three words of "Peterson's politics aside".

Originally posted by Robtard
Um, as much as I set you people off, please realize that I am not in any form associated with GQ magazine, so you making it seem like I said that, is rather weak and frail.

Dude, you supportively posted a quote, and I asked for a source regarding a specific claim made in the quote. That's a perfectly reasonable request, even if that wasn't the focus of your own post because it would pertain to the credibility of the source. You can just say "I don't know" instead of getting livid and calling me "weak and frail".

I did no such thing, if I hadn't commented and just posted or directly commented on Peterson's politics you'd have a point. But I specifically went to show the part of the story I'm focused on is Peterson's all-beef diet. I know he's a father figure, but come on, getting a bit redic with defending him when I've not attacked. Which is also the true shame of my post in the other thread, the true message was lost due to knee-jerking.

Anyhow, the all-beef thing? What say thee?

Originally posted by Robtard
I did no such thing, if I hadn't commented and just posted or directly commented on Peterson's politics you'd have a point. But I specifically went to show the part of the story I'd focused on is Peterson's all-beef diet.

I addressed the "that's not what I'm focusing on" rebuttal in my previous post, all three sentences of it, which was apparently too long for you not to glaze over.

I know he's a father figure, but come on, getting a bit redic with defending him when I've not attacked.

You know those hangouts Putinbot rails on about? I'm literally in an anti-Peterson group chat. You confuse my criticisms of your pathological intellectual dishonesty for agreement with the opposition.

Anyhow, the all-beef thing? What say thee?

I'm not an expert, but it seems dumb. You should cite a more reliable source though.

I literally wanted to talk about the diet, which was beyond clear with my second paragraph if not the first and now I have "pathological intellectual dishonesty". Okay then.

Me neither, but It can't be healthy in the long run. I know some people do a strict protein diet in either short term to lose weight or even long term, but those diets consist of more than just eating cooked beef, their nutrients/vitamins isn't limited to just what is found in beef. All-beef sounds like it would leave someone in a nigh constant state of exhaustion in the long term.

To your edit: What's not reliable about the source? It's literally Peterson saying he only eats beef; I don't think he's lying. Least I hope not. Odd thing to lie about.

Okay 2 things to address there

1. He didn't say women should be legally redistributed to sexually desperate men. That was a slanderous hit piece that took what he said out of context, he was specifically referring to cultural standards that support monogamous sexual relations between men and women. Right off the bat this article is lying about Jordan Peterson.

2. Jordan Peterson has specified that he and his daughter have very specific autoimmune disorders that they've calibrated their diets around. I heard him in person at a lecture say that his diet isn't something he would just blanket recommend to people because there's a specific reason with his own health circumstances that leads him to that diet. He's not some diet guru suggesting that other people diet that way.

So they eat literally nothing but beef? No vegetables or fiber or anything? Their shits must be nightmares.

His daughter is pretty ****able, though.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Okay 2 things to address there

1. He didn't say women should be legally redistributed to sexually desperate men. That was a slanderous hit piece that took what he said out of context, he was specifically referring to cultural standards that support monogamous sexual relations between men and women. Right off the bat this article is lying about Jordan Peterson.

2. Jordan Peterson has specified that he and his daughter have very specific autoimmune disorders that they've calibrated their diets around. I heard him in person at a lecture say that his diet isn't something he would just blanket recommend to people because there's a specific reason with his own health circumstances that leads him to that diet. He's not some diet guru suggesting that other people diet that way.

1) I honestly don't care about that/the politics. Guess I should have disclaimed *The mean things the author said about Peterson are untrue and they're a fartface for saying it* in the beginning

2) He says so in the article that it's not something he'd necessarily recommend. Just seems so limited and not remotely healthy long term. Do you know if he's working with a doctor and/or a nutritionist?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Okay 2 things to address there

1. He didn't say women should be legally redistributed to sexually desperate men. That was a slanderous hit piece that took what he said out of context, he was specifically referring to cultural standards that support monogamous sexual relations between men and women. Right off the bat this article is lying about Jordan Peterson.

2. Jordan Peterson has specified that he and his daughter have very specific autoimmune disorders that they've calibrated their diets around. I heard him in person at a lecture say that his diet isn't something he would just blanket recommend to people because there's a specific reason with his own health circumstances that leads him to that diet. He's not some diet guru suggesting that other people diet that way.

1. f*ck you

2. f*ck you

no way i'm engaging with your arguments

Originally posted by BackFire
So they eat literally nothing but beef? No vegetables or fiber or anything? Their shits must be nightmares.

His daughter is pretty ****able, though.

I was thinking the same thing, constipation is likely a side-effect.

Though the guy I mentioned with his mostly raw meat diet said he shit left often, but had almost no gas and when he shit it was normal. He also ate a lot of the animal fat though along with the meat/muscle.

Originally posted by Robtard
1) I honestly don't care about that/the politics. Guess I should have disclaimed *The mean things the author said about Peterson are untrue and they're a fartface for saying it* in the beginning

2) He says so in the article that it's not something he'd necessarily recommend. Just seems so limited and not remotely healthy long term. Do you know if he's working with a doctor and/or a nutritionist?


1) kk kewl
2) No idea, I don't exactly follow him for his diet, so it's not really something that catches my interest.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
1) kk kewl
2) No idea, I don't exactly follow him for his diet, so it's not really something that catches my interest.

Well phuck you then! His weird diet is the most interesting thing I've seen out of him and I'm legit interested in how he came to it, why he thinks it's working for him, if it's something just and and his daughter science'd up together or they had some outside influences(s) and what his thoughts are long term on it.

Considering trying all-beef for 3-4 days, just to see what it feels like. I'm pretty lean so I'd expect fatigue having zero carbs, biggest worry would be chronic constipation.

Originally posted by Robtard
Well phuck you then! His weird diet is the most interesting thing I've seen out of him and I'm legit interested in how he came to it, why he thinks it's working for him, if it's something just and and his daughter science'd up together or they had some outside influences(s) and what his thoughts are long term on it.

Considering trying all-beef for 3-4 days, just to see what it feels like. I'm pretty lean so I'd expect fatigue having zero carbs, biggest worry would be chronic constipation.

Ah, as someone who had four very heavy Imperial Stouts in a row, I would not recommend trying this diet.

It's not pretty.

Extrapolate, sir

Originally posted by Robtard
Extrapolate, sir

You pretty much summed up one of the main issues already. Stopped up pretty badly.

Granted, I had those four in a single sitting, but I'd imagine a week or so of nothing but beer (Or beer and sausages, as I've heard a variation) will turn out the same way, in the end.

Jeebus. Peterson must take a spoon to the bathroom with him then. Maybe I won't experiment then.

I would get so tired of eating nothing but beef. Would get real boring real quick.

Originally posted by BackFire
I would get so tired of eating nothing but beef. Would get real boring real quick.

That's just the little cultural Marxist inside you talking.