Originally posted by Surtur
Your trolling games are getting stale. Do better.
Yells "troll!" cos he can't retort the facts.
Fact: Unless you were mind-controlled and/or coerced in some fashion, as an adult you're solely responsible in both your voting for and supporting Trump. Fact#2: Trump's voters are the ones who got him elected, cos that's how voting works
Now stop being a spineless weasel and take a healthy serving of each of these:
-Personal responsibility or Individual Responsibility is the idea that human beings choose, instigate, or otherwise cause their own actions. A corollary idea is that because we cause our actions, we can be held morally accountable or legally liable.
-Accountability the quality or state of being accountable; especially : an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one's actions. public officials lacking accountability.
Originally posted by Robtard
Fact: Unless you were mind-controlled and/or coerced in some fashion, as an adult you're solely responsible in both your voting for and supporting Trump.Now stop being a spineless weasel and take a healthy serving of each of these:
-[b]Personal responsibility
or Individual Responsibility is the idea that human beings choose, instigate, or otherwise cause their own actions. A corollary idea is that because we cause our actions, we can be held morally accountable or legally liable.-Accountability the quality or state of being accountable; especially : an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one's actions. public officials lacking accountability. [/B]
Indeed, quite stale.
Originally posted by Playmaker
I don't know the point that Robtard is trying to make.
What I love is that he is essentially a leftist. And they are convinced that Russia and Comey got people to switch votes or not vote. But the idea that the left contributed to Trumps election is something he won't admit to and it is weird.
Nobody ever said people were mind controlled. But he wants to pretend like the bullshit of the left didn't turn anyone off to voting for Hillary. It doesn't even mean they voted for Trump, they could have just not voted at all, but Trump still benefited from that.
Originally posted by Surtur
What I love is that he is essentially a leftist. And they are convinced that Russia and Comey got people to switch votes or not vote. But the idea that the left contributed to Trumps election is something he won't admit to and it is weird.Nobody ever said people were mind controlled. But he wants to pretend like the bullshit of the left didn't turn anyone off to voting for Hillary. It doesn't even mean they voted for Trump, they could have just not voted at all, but Trump still benefited from that.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Funny that now that I have posted evidence, ie. Peterson himself saying what he meant, he's gone silent.
I'll respond to your post now.
DMB finally posts evidence for a claim he expresses incredulity over 5 posts earlier
You. Were. Wrong. Peterson was obviously not arguing for the government to control people's sexual behavior or enforce the distribution of women to men as sexual partners. This shitty slanderous argument against him is at it's end.You mean that "shitty slanderous argument" based on the most obvious interpretation of what Jordan Peterson himself said?
It's nice peterson bothered to provide context for his statement after the fact, but it would be nice if you stopped getting mad at people for peterson's inability to communicate properly the first time.
Also, it's extra pathethic that i had to ask you several times to post this evidence for you to stop flipping out and post a quote. And even worse, you assume that me not responding means I was scared when you yourself regularly don't respond in discussions you start.
I've long felt it was more a case of voter apathy from the Hillary camp. The media kept showing pieces about how Trump will probably lose which then became, 'Trump WILL lose'. Which I do believe led a lot of potential Hillary voters to say, 'Got a lot to do today, might not have time to go and vote, you know what screw it, the television and my echo chamber of a social media account says Hillary will win so she doesn't need my vote'. At the same time these types of comments from the media could only really have galvanized the Trump camp to get out there and queue up for hours to vote for their man.
Originally posted by samhain
I've long felt it was more a case of voter apathy from the Hillary camp. The media kept showing pieces about how Trump will probably lose which then became, 'Trump WILL lose'. Which I do believe led a lot of potential Hillary voters to say, 'Got a lot to do today, might not have time to go and vote, you know what screw it, the television and my echo chamber of a social media account says Hillary will win so she doesn't need my vote'. At the same time these types of comments from the media could only really have galvanized the Trump camp to get out there and queue up for hours to vote for their man.
Going on stats from the election and lead up, Hillary rarely cracked 50% in any poll leading up to the election and would camp around 40% most of the time. Trump won fewer votes in Wisconsin than Mitt Romney did when he ran in 2012. Trump won the state. Romney didn't. Same with Michigan. Trump won the state despite having fewer votes than George W. Bush did in 2004. Bush didn't win the state.
So this post may very well be 100% true. It's not so much as Trump won the election but that Democrats weren't just bothering to show up to the poll. But also, perhaps, many Democrats didn't bother voting because they didn't like Hillary at all and were put off after learning that the DNC rigged the primary against Bernie Sanders.
Originally posted by samhain
I've long felt it was more a case of voter apathy from the Hillary camp. The media kept showing pieces about how Trump will probably lose which then became, 'Trump WILL lose'. Which I do believe led a lot of potential Hillary voters to say, 'Got a lot to do today, might not have time to go and vote, you know what screw it, the television and my echo chamber of a social media account says Hillary will win so she doesn't need my vote'. At the same time these types of comments from the media could only really have galvanized the Trump camp to get out there and queue up for hours to vote for their man.
I think this is a valid point. Though I also feel like some people were turned off by Hillary and the PC bullshit. I think some might have voted for Trump over it, or might have decided not to vote because they didn't feel she deserved it.
Given that it was actually a close race in terms of...there were places Trump did not win by a shitload of votes, I feel it's fair to say the left contributed.
Of course they didn't force anyone. No more than Russia or Jim Comey or wikileaks did.
Originally posted by Playmaker
Going on stats from the election and lead up, Hillary rarely cracked 50% in any poll leading up to the election and would camp around 40% most of the time. Trump won fewer votes in Wisconsin than Mitt Romney did when he ran in 2012. Trump won the state. Romney didn't. Same with Michigan. Trump won the state despite having fewer votes than George W. Bush did in 2004. Bush didn't win the state.So this post may very well be 100% true. It's not so much as Trump won the election but that Democrats weren't just bothering to show up to the poll. But also, perhaps, many Democrats didn't bother voting because they didn't like Hillary at all and were put off after learning that the DNC rigged the primary against Bernie Sanders.
I thought so too but it turns out more people voted in the 2016 election than they did for the 2012 election:
About 139 million Americans, or 60.2 percent of the voting-eligible population, cast a ballot in November’s elections, according to data compiled by the U.S. Elections Project. That compares with 58.6 percent of eligible voters who turned out in 2012, but it’s below the 62.2 percent who turned out to help elect Obama for the first time in 2008.
I read on another site that some key states had mixed numbers (more turned out here and less turned out there, for example).
Peterson did an AMA (Ask me anything) on reddit earlier today. Answered a lot of questions, some of which were interesting.
Figured I'd post it here for those interested.
Jordan Peterson, Custodian of the Patriarchy
My favorite part:
Violent attacks are what happens when men do not have partners. Mr. Peterson says, and society needs to work to make sure those men are married.
"He was angry at God because women were rejecting him," Mr. Peterson says of the Toronto killer. "The cure for that is enforced monogamy. That's actually why monogamy emerges." -snip
😂 How bout no? How about we don't "enforce" monogamy and let people have a right to both their own bodies and sex. How about it's not society's burden to help incels get married so they can finally get laid. What a clownshow; no wonder this guy is the hero of the Male Rights Activist.
Originally posted by Robtard
Jordan Peterson, Custodian of the PatriarchyMy favorite part:
Violent attacks are what happens when men do not have partners. Mr. Peterson says, and society needs to work to make sure those men are married.
"He was angry at God because women were rejecting him," Mr. Peterson says of the Toronto killer. "The cure for that is enforced monogamy. That's actually why monogamy emerges." -snip
😂 How bout no? How about we don't [b]"enforce"
monogamy and let people have a right to both their own bodies and sex. How about it's not society's burden to help incels get married so they can finally get laid. What a clownshow.; no wonder this guy is the hero of the Male Rights Activist. [/B]
You realize the thread was originally about the story you just posted, right?
Go back, have a read. See that article you posted get slapped down, etc.