DCEU vs. New Star Wars

Originally posted by Surtur
They seem to wanna churn out a Star Wars movie once a year. It's not the right strategy.

The new Star Wars debuted less than 3 years ago. We've now had 4 movies.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I never pay attention to the Critics reviews in RT, but rather to the Audience score.

And yet, am not basing my argument only on RT but also on many other sites/pages.

That's what I do as well, the critics scores are sometimes quite odd.

I mean...lol@ the female ghosttbusters being in the high 90s.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you make great films about interesting ideas people want to see they will come out in spades. It’s kennedy’s fault.

But sometimes when you try to rush these things out...the projects can suffer.

And now I hear they are doing a live action tv show as well.

Originally posted by Surtur
That's what I do as well, the critics scores are sometimes quite odd.

I mean...lol@ the female ghosttbusters being in the high 90s.

Critics reviews are always GARBAGE. I wonder if the critics are even human beings!

Their scores are always so different to the Audience's!

Look at Avengers Infinity War. They give it 83 while the Audience gives it a hard 91. Samething with Deadpool.

I would be down for them to delay episode 9 for a year at this point. Gives them time to breathe a regroup.

Originally posted by Surtur
But sometimes when you try to rush these things out...the projects can suffer.

And now I hear they are doing a live action tv show as well.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Okay, this is clearly YOUR word against IMBd, Forbes, Rottentomatoes, and many many other sites and reviews which dedicate to analyzing fans responses and movie results.

Again kid, you liked the movie, fine. Doesn't mean the rest of us did, nor that your opinion> Internet/fanbase.

hahahahahahaha.. okay troll... RT and IDMB have been known to get hacked, otherwise explain why Justice League was a flop and Last Jedi wasn't? Like I said anyone can go on them and say whether or not someone will see any movie, thats undeniable fact.. do you need a 5150 hold since it seems you can't accept that. Movie studios couldn;t less what the internet says you doufas. That is also an undeniable fact. You seem to forget I'm also part of the fanbase. you and others just upset your wishes/fanboy wet dreams have yet to materialize, whereas myself I have enjoyed these new films as has millions if not bilions of other movie goers since once again , it is all the movie goers out there that are the sole truth of whether or not a movie is a financial success or not and not people hiding behind computers thinking they all tough...

here is this from Deadline when they did their movie tournament on whether or not a movie was profitable or not.. Last Jedi tapped out at NUMBER 1...

http://deadline.com/2018/03/star-wars-the-last-jedi-box-office-movie-profits-1202351603/

so once more, millions if not billions of moviegoers out there clearly liked what they saw so deal with it...

Originally posted by Surtur
They seem to wanna churn out a Star Wars movie once a year. It's not the right strategy.

The new Star Wars debuted less than 3 years ago. We've now had 4 movies.

yea they clearly should've waited to release Solo..

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Full disclosure: haven't seen Wonder Woman all the way through, and I haven't seen Solo yet.

I've watched nearly all the DC cartoons since my youth (born in 1987), and I remember Empire Strikes Back being the first movie that gut-punched me and made me cry the night I watched it as a 7-8 year old child. These brands are near the top of my fanboy list.

That being said, I was thrilled when I sat down to watch Force Awakens and Rogue One, and TLJ had plenty of great jaw-dropping moments (throne room killing of Snoke and fight against the red guards, the hyperspeed kamikaze, Luke and Kylo's force projection samurai fight) to offset the garbage (the casino sequence is the worst set of scenes in anything Star Wars ever, Admiral Holdo, utterly absurd space battles, and making every plot twist reveal be the most disappointing possible reveal - example: Rey has visions of Vader and a connection to Anakin and Luke's lightsaber? Why? No reason just cuz, her parents where no one, etc.)

So far I'll still go see Episode IX for sure.

Now to the DCEU: I loved Man of Steel. I think it's the best movie of these entire two groups. There were some issues with the editing and the Pa Kent tornado sacrifice was beyond stupid, but the grainy sci-fi take on the Last Son of Krypton was just fantastic to me.

Besides that, though, what a monster letdown this universe has been:
- I liked BvS: Synder and co. stuck to their guns and tried to continue their tale of what happens when a super-powered alien is discovered on Earth and causes vast swaths of damage in the process of stopping his own people bent on world domination. Too bad it falls apart at email attachments, Bats and Supes' completely unnecessary battle, and teenage mutant ninja Doomsday.
- Suicide Squad: the ultimate example of why a movie can't just be cool scenes and catchy pop songs thrown together to be called a "plot". Fun, but a bad bad movie.
- What I've seen of WW is good, but game-changing? Eh. It screamed The First Avenger from everything's I've seen from it.
- Finally, DCEU reached its own Avengers. They had the forward momentum from Wonder Woman. They had the positive vibes we're all in this together marketing campaign. This was the moment to right the ship and steer it forward: the Justice League was about to arrive on the silver screen after decades in print. I'll just leave it at this, and this will give my answer to the question asked in this thread: I rented it from Redbox and it took me two days to finish because my wife fell asleep watching it. Utter, utter disappointment.

TL;DR: At least Nu-Wars has been entertaining even if it's divisive; besides MoS and WW, DCEU has been one massive trainwreck.