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Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
h1's complete and utter lack of self-awareness never ceases to amaze me.

It's amazing how you fall into their bs without reading the exchange yourself.
They are constantly lying and creating strawman out of my arguments.
They are really trolling if you think about it.

Problem is, If I'm wrong then there is no need to change my words to my argument or to tell lies. Just let what I said stand on its own. Restate my argument word for word and meaning for meaning.

What they're doing is proof that I'm not really wrong.

Originally posted by h1a8
And their temperatures can range too and can be 600,000k.

But this does not destroy my point. His first link gave 10km as a source. That's evidence.

The first link did not say 10 km was the average radius of a neutron star and Kyle specifically said he was calculating the average numbers.

You need to stop lying.

Originally posted by h1a8
> My numbers? You see how you create a strawman. You are the deceitful one. You mean the numbers he provided? Prove it.

facepalm

A big chunk of the discussion we are having is whether or not you used "his numbers".

Me saying "your numbers" obviously means "the numbers you claimed he used".

Because until you prove those are the exact numbers he used, those are indeed "your numbers".

Are you so daft that I need to spell things to you like I would a 4 year old? Thought you were smart.

😆

Likely you are just very desperate.

Because obviously, you're no longer interested to debate the fact that you tried to accuse a credentialed youtube presenter (who has no reason to be biased) of either being deceitful or wrong. But, so you're just twist my words to distract me from that fact (through implication).

But that's not really gonna work.

Pathetic.

And again asking others to disprove your claims? Do you even know how logic work?

Originally posted by h1a8
It's amazing how you fall into their bs without reading the exchange yourself.
They are constantly lying and creating strawman out of my arguments.
They are really trolling if you think about it.

Problem is, If I'm wrong then there is no need to change my words to my argument or to tell lies. Just let what I said stand on its own. Restate my argument word for word and meaning for meaning.

What they're doing is proof that I'm not really wrong.

Funny that you assumed that he didn't read the exchange.

But lemme call you out since you made the effort to actually make a very bold claim:

Post where we lied with quotes.

Post the strawmen with quotes.

Know that if you refuse, that you just got caught in another major lie.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's amazing how you fall into their bs without reading the exchange yourself.
They are constantly lying and creating strawman out of my arguments.
They are really trolling if you think about it.

Problem is, If I'm wrong then there is no need to change my words to my argument or to tell lies. Just let what I said stand on its own. Restate my argument word for word and meaning for meaning.

What they're doing is proof that I'm not really wrong.

So, just because I don't share your view, it means that I didn't read the exchange? You really are just proving my point.

Originally posted by h1a8

The average neutron star's energy OUTPUT is less than the Sun after a few years. They are not as luminous as the Sun because their radii are vastly smaller and are constantly getting cooler.

luminosity doesnt translate into energy. You do realize that right?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
luminosity doesnt translate into energy. You do realize that right?

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
So, just because I don't share your view, it means that I didn't read the exchange? You really are just proving my point.

Correct! But you didn't read the full exchange because of how you replied to what they said. You were actually agreeing to a lie.

Originally posted by h1a8
The average neutron star's energy OUTPUT is less than the Sun after a few years. They are not as luminous as the Sun because their radii are vastly smaller and are constantly getting cooler.

After exactly how many years, be sure to cite your source.

I'll post a few

Here is a lie.

Originally posted by Silent Master
At no point have you ever provided evidence that Science guy made any math errors like you claimed.

That makes this another one of your lies.

The evidence is in the numbers he provides and the formula he provides.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Yes, stating that the credentialed youtube presenter who has no reason to be biased would be "deceitful" IF he didn't use the numbers you wanted him to be using is DEFINITELY just a conditional statement that does not imply anything.

shrug

This is a lie.
I never said he was deceitful. I gave an conditional statement. If then statement.
Logic 101

Here is another lie.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He's trying to prove Kyle Hill made math errors, problem is he's making up numbers in order to prove it.

In other words, H1 is being massively dishonest.

I did not make up numbers. I used the numbers he provides.

Originally posted by h1a8
The evidence is in the numbers he provides and the formula he provides.

Provide the timestamps where he states what numbers he used in his equation.

I did not make up numbers. I used the numbers he provides.

Provide the timestamp where he states the numbers he used in his equation.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is a lie.
I never said he was deceitful. I gave an conditional statement. If then statement.
Logic 101

Lol. As if accusation by implication does not exist in this world. 🙄

Here, if you need a refresher:

http://www.memidex.com/implication+accusation

You must really think here are stupid to pull this kind of BS.

Or you're not just very smart and don't understand that ppl can tear your arguments apart with little/no effort.

Originally posted by h1a8
Correct! But you didn't read the full exchange because of how you replied to what they said. You were actually agreeing to a lie.

Nope, I read all of it, including your blatant lowballing of the Hulk punch values, before people even got stuck on the Thor thing.

And FYI, the comment I made was not just about this thread.

This is how h1 changes the narrative during debates:

1) Step one: bury the posts with irrelevant arguments.
2) Step two: create a new narrative by stating a lie.
3) Step three: repeat said lie over and over until the other posts are buried and only the lie remains.

This is how dishonest he is. His only recourse is to just be pigheaded enough so as to discourage ppl from continuing the argument.

Thing is, this tactic is easy to counter. Just reference previous posts and simply cut/paste what really occurred, paste into a word file and simply repaste. Like so:

Originally posted by Nibedicus
>claims credentialed individual committed several errors.

>uses different values as credentialed individual to come up with different result.

>claims that since he came up with different result, credentialed individual must have committed an error.

>doesn't get the absolute stupidity of that.

#h1logic

😱

Proof: starts at page 8 of this debate.

Originally posted by h1a8
Stop doing what those two idiots were doing, changing my words and creating strawman. I said ENERGY OUTPUT. The energy that a star OUTPUTS. Not energy it contains.

Energy output. h1, you do realize luminosity isnt the only form of energy output right?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
This is how h1 changes the narrative during debates:

1) Step one: bury the posts with irrelevant arguments.
2) Step two: create a new narrative by stating a lie.
3) Step three: repeat said lie over and over until the other posts are buried and only the lie remains.

This is how dishonest he is. His only recourse is to just be pigheaded enough so as to discourage ppl from continuing the argument.

Thing is, this tactic is easy to counter. Just reference previous posts and simply cut/paste what really occurred, paste into a word file and simply repaste. Like so:

Proof: starts at page 8 of this debate.

And, like I said, the guy completely lacks any sense of self-awareness. He would rather literally assume that everyone else is in the wrong, everyone else is lying, everyone else is the troll, in every thread he takes part in, than even entertain the notion that maybe everyone else isn't the issue. Hell, he would rather imply nonsense like there basically being a forum-wide conspiracy against him, which was an excuse he's used to try and back out of BZs in the past.

But of course, he will come in and perform the latest series of mental backflips as to why everything he does is 100% legit and valid, and everyone else is wrong.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Lol. As if accusation by implication does not exist in this world. 🙄

Here, if you need a refresher:

http://www.memidex.com/implication+accusation

You must really think here are stupid to pull this kind of BS.

Or you're not just very smart and don't understand that ppl can tear your arguments apart with little/no effort.

It does exist. But I'm not implying anything. If anything, it makes more sense for him to make an error than to be deceitful. If you believe that I believe he made an error then you shouldn't think I think that he is deceitful. Therefore, you stating that I'm implying that he is deceitful is a true lie.

Originally posted by h1a8
It does exist. But I'm not implying anything. If anything, it makes more sense for him to make an error than to be deceitful. If you believe that I believe he made an error then you shouldn't think I think that he is deceitful. Therefore, you stating that I'm implying that he is deceitful is a true lie.

Perhaps you didn't see the "or" in my statement or did you go blind all of a sudden? Here lemme enlarge it if you can't read through your little liar eyes.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
h1 is literally accusing a credentialed individual of lying OR his math/science being wrong while all the while stating that he just needs "reasonable evidence" to do so (even tho he admits he doesn't even know where the guy even got his numbers from).

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
And, like I said, the guy completely lacks any sense of self-awareness. He would rather literally assume that everyone else is in the wrong, everyone else is lying, everyone else is the troll, in every thread he takes part in, than even entertain the notion that maybe everyone else isn't the issue. Hell, he would rather imply nonsense like there basically being a forum-wide conspiracy against him, which was an excuse he's used to try and back out of BZs in the past.

But of course, he will come in and perform the latest series of mental backflips as to why everything he does is 100% legit and valid, and everyone else is wrong.

You are an idiot if you don't see how they are twisting up my words to mean something else and blatantly lie in saying that I said something I didn't say.
You are just bias. If you did see something to my point then you wouldn't even acknowledge it. Therefore, it is a waste of time to debate with you. I can never be right (even if you see it).

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Energy output. h1, you do realize luminosity isnt the only form of energy output right?

The luminosity of a star includes, radiation, heat, etc. The luminosity determines all the energy that is being output. If if say this is wrong then you are against established physics by many PhDs.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Nope, I read all of it, including your blatant lowballing of the Hulk punch values, before people even got stuck on the Thor thing.

And FYI, the comment I made was not just about this thread.

You don't know if I'm lowballing anything if you don't attempt to calculate it yourself or check my work.

You have no say in the matter until then.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Perhaps you didn't see the "or" in my statement or did you go blind all of a sudden? Here lemme enlarge it if you can't read through your little liar eyes.

The latter is false since you attempted to defeat my argument by lying and creating strawman.

The best debators don't need to result to petty tactics like that.