Boba Fett or Cad Bane

Started by DarthPlaguis1210 pages

Bro are you stupid? He got knocked on his ass by a girl with no training...he’s a puss. You make it sound like he effortlessly evaded her every attack.

Lol so Luke the grand master of the order couldn’t even beat a sleeping kylo...wow the power..,I’m soooo impressed 😂😂

He couldn’t have just force pushed her away or something lol...there’s legends material in Yoda fighting three Jedi masters with no saver n they couldn’t touch him...three Jedi masters couldn’t even touch Sidious.

Yiu try so hard to make things fit your perspective.

Dp is an idiot. His points are just lies. He’s a liar who will pm you when he gets truly desperate. Expect it to happen.

Shut up son

I’m in your pee brain. Hahaha, loser.

Nah that’s why I say **** off, you’re a low grade troll not fit for trolling.

Originally posted by DarthPlaguis12
Nah that’s why I say **** off, you’re a low grade troll not fit for trolling.
So you concede to me. You break before me. Get lost you weak willed afterthought.

Originally posted by Galan007
Why on earth should I 'tackle' your personal opinion regarding Snoke's theoretical standing in the force hierarchy? For the purposes of this discussion, I don't care what you *think* about his powers -- I am(and have only been) talking about what we can actually *prove* via quantifiable, and canon, feats/accolades up to this point.

That said, not one shred of legitimate evidence(and actors' opinions are NOT canonical evidence, btw, so please stop acting like they're gospel) suggests that Snoke is more powerful overall than Palpatine... Let alone the most powerful force-user to ever exist. 'Nuff said.

Well, nothing in canon suggets Palpatine is MORE powerful than Snoke, either.

Where is this source from?

My memories. The first example was in the "jedi knight" game, the expansion Mysteries of the Sith

You seem to think that projecting yourself over half the galaxy for 10 minutes straight isn't difficult. The movie treats it as difficult. Nowhere else in canon have we see this. So, the only logical conclusion is that it's difficult.

The only thing that supports the notion that it's not difficult is legends, which isn't canon.

it’s obvious by his loses to kylo n rey he wasn’t as powerful as Vader

Maybe not in his old age, but I was referring to Return of the Jedi. My point was that even if he's decreased in power, he was once VERY powerful, so it's not like he's a weakling.

Also, he didn't lose to Rey or to Kylo. He was distracted when he got cheapshotted by Kylo (it'd be like saying Snoke is worse than Kylo) and he let Rey win.

Where’s it say Obi Wan gave himself to the force

His body disappeared and he became a force ghost. We learn in episode 3 that Qui-Gon discovered how to do this by giving himself to the living force. Obi Wan did this before Vader could kill him, and Luke did it after having finished his character arc.

I don’t recall Snoke or Palpatine dying from their feats

Snoke is indeed more powerful, and Palpatine never demonstrated as powerful of a feat.

Dooku has used force choke during battle has he not, as well as Ventress, so why wouldn’t Vader.

Rey and Kylo also used force abilities when fighting, so why didn't they against the preatorians? They were distracted, that's why.

So you’re saying Vader can’t just force choke eight human guards even though he can force lift two imperial guards

You're either not understanding me, or misrepresenting me. And I'm pretty sure it's the latter. First of all, I said don't compare them to Vader, they're as powerful as PT era jedi, not the one who killed all of them. Secondly, the preatorians are better fighters, so they'd distract Vader better.

What’s that scene have to do with anything?

The point was to show that force users can't (more like don't) always use their force abilities when it makes sense to do so.

You make it sound like he effortlessly evaded her every attack.

He did evade her every attack.

He couldn’t have just force pushed her away or something lol...there’s legends material...

Stop mentioning legends material. It's irrelevant. And pushing her away with a blade of plasma in her hand (and near all these sharp rocks and unstable heights) is dangerous. The best he could have done is pinned her to the ground, but he's a pacifist, so why bother?

Originally posted by Zentrex
Well, nothing in canon suggets Palpatine is MORE powerful than Snoke, either.
...Except for the plethora of high-end *feats* Palpatine has under his belt, lol.

Originally posted by Galan007
...Except for the plethora of high-end *feats* Palpatine has under his belt, lol.
That doesn’t prove superiority you biased ****.

Originally posted by Zentrex
Well, nothing in canon suggets Palpatine is MORE powerful than Snoke, either.
Galan is extremely biased and has plenty of double standards. Don’t let his routine fool you.

Originally posted by Galan007
...Except for the plethora of high-end *feats* Palpatine has under his belt, lol.

but how do you know they make him more powerful than Snoke? He's done nothing more powerful than what Snoke's done.

And before you mention the TWBW feat, we don't actually know if that required someone to be powerful at all. Maybe he just needed to have knowledge of the ritual, regardless of power. Maybe as long as you're tethered to someone in the world between worlds (Ezra), you can use them to get in regardless of power.

And the powerscaling argument won't work either, because even Yoda's done nothing more commendable than what Snoke and Luke accomplished in the Last Jedi.

Originally posted by Zentrex
but how do you know they make him more powerful than Snoke?
Because I, unlike you, am not using my personal opinion, in lieu of canonical evidence, to try and gauge Snoke... Nor am I applying no-limits fallacies based on the opinions of actors...

As mentioned, I am ONLY discussing what can be PROVEN at this time, via QUANTIFIABLE feats/accolades... Why is is so hard for you to grasp this?

My question was, what's palpatine done that shows he's more powerful than Snoke, or that he's the "top dog"? That's the assumption you've been working in, so prove it. Give me one feat which outdoes Snoke's or Luke's in the Last Jedi

Are you seriously asking me to post all of Palpatine's noteworthy feats/accolades here, lol? Good God.

The willful intransigence is staggering, tbh. You have continuously moved goalposts, and thrown around red-herring after red-herring in an effort to hyper-wank Snoke to hysterically illogical/fallacious levels. That said, I'm done wasting my time here... This 'discussion' has devolved into borderline idiocy at this point, and I see no reason to continue indulging it.

It's been real... 👆

Galan as always bows out when someone calls him out to prove his opinion. This is who he has always been. Mentally weak.

Originally posted by Zentrex
My question was, what's palpatine done that shows he's more powerful than Snoke, or that he's the "top dog"? That's the assumption you've been working in, so prove it. Give me one feat which outdoes Snoke's or Luke's in the Last Jedi

Lol even Maul can replicate the TP thing.

Heck he did it when he connected Ezra to Kenobi.

Now what has Snoke done that even comes to Force choking another Sith Lord from star systems away? Or fighting competitively in Saber fights with possibly the 2 most capable Jedi combatants in history.

Theres literally no argument here for Snoke.

The sheer dishonesty of posters on here with their seething hatred for Disney. Face it disney wouldn’t make someone comparable to Maul level as their powerful dark side user. This is confirmed by Serkis and the facts display a power unseen in the Star Wars mythos and knowledge Sidious even lusted after. Snoke truly is supreme. There’s too much bias here to expect people to be objective.

Its not for you to decide what Disney would or wouldnt do.. thats just a sad argument because theres literally nothing concrete. Nothing special at all, just a guy who got cleaved in 2 by his own apprentice.

Pablo Hidalgo already confirmed Serkis words/opinion meant nothing. Keep stringing to fake evidence though. You have nothing else.

At quan I concede nothing you sad ****.

At zen, your memories don’t count, I already gave you examples of Snoke n Sidious doing feats over light years and not dying. Sorry

He def wasn’t as powerful as his father in ROTJ, Vader wasn’t trying to kill him, cheap shot? He tried killing kylo in his sleep...he lost to kylo, end of story

Qui gon was killed...Luke died from that lame feat...Obi Wan died cause Vader struck him down

Palpatine could force choke dooku from light years away....

Or maybe it’s just the writing, what’s your point? You have no point...

Can’t really say they’re better fighters can we? What difference would it make if they’re getting force choked?

It’s just the writing though.

In the end he lost though, he was in his back n would have died if she was serious...Yoda wouldn’t have been in that situation nor Sidious

I’ll mention what I want, as far as I’m concerned it’s like an alternate universe, how can you write decades of material then say it’s not canon? But anyway when you drop a saber it deactivates, you’re an idiot