Originally posted by XLR87T3
Anyways, 99% of the kryptonians get oneshotted by telepathy. Then the rest take out 99% of Asgardians, so we're left with Superman, Powergirl, Supergirl, and Zod, against Loki, Thor, Beta Ray Bill, Thorgirl/Jane, War Thor, Destroyer, and Odin.Asgard wins in the end
Loki can literally take control of Superman.
Odin can literally one-shot waves of them.
Same with Thor actually using his most powerful lightning.
Originally posted by XLR87T3
Anyways, 99% of the kryptonians get oneshotted by telepathy. Then the rest take out 99% of Asgardians, so we're left with Superman, Powergirl, Supergirl, and Zod, against Loki, Thor, Beta Ray Bill, Thorgirl/Jane, War Thor, Destroyer, and Odin.Asgard wins in the end
Lol.
Check your maths.
Assuming your 99% is somehow correct...
1% of 100,000 Kryptonians is still 1,000 Kryptonians. You're not just left with those four......
Edit: am also mystified by your timeline.
You have the War Thor there. Fine. Not sure why BRB is there too, though - IIRC he wasn't around when War Thor was.
And IF you want to use THAT era of Asgard....I wouldn't count too much on Loki. Even as the Sorceror Supreme, all he wanted to do when Mangog attacked was run (and got bitchslapped by his mom):
So no, I wouldn't want to depend on him to defend me.
As for Odin? Again, if we take THIS era of Asgard...
Let's just say he's hardly fighting without CIS in play...
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus👆
No, your stance was that Odin was not galactic level, and he only has one feat (It was arguable before, but apparently not now), and nothing else.Who are the majority of writers? Stan Lee, Thomas DeFalco, Walter Simonson, Matt Fraction, Kieron Gillen, and Jason Aaron (Yes, even Aaron) have ALL shown Odin performing Galaxy level to Universal level feats at least once in their tenure. Those are easily the most iconic Thor writers of all time aside from Roy Thomas and JMS (Who never wrote Odin aside from him fighting Surtur for all Eternity in Valhalla).
FIVE posts later, and your stance is STILL Changing. Now you're not counting power appearances, but the number of books a writer has penned?
Odin has 1130 issues appearances as of comicvine:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/odin/4005-3507/More than half of those, he almost never does anything except talk or serve as exposition. Let's say out of the relevant 600 appearances, he only gets into fights for about, maybe 150 of those (On the safe side), and he has maybe 10 galactic or higher level feats directly/indirectly. On the conservative end, Odin has like 6% out of actual fights where he demonstrates actual Galactic level fights.
You want to know how many times Superman would display planetary or higher power based on the number of fights? I'm guessing between 1% and 0.1%? Regardless, whatever stance you take, if you want to start analyzing issue counts, your logic quickly backfires on your stance in almost every thread.
Regardless, it's not my job to convince you that you're an outstanding dumb*ss. We can present our cases to an unbiased panel of 3 judges. You can argue writer appearances or whatever idiocy you want, I will simply present a relevant and concise argument, and make a note of whatever your argument you make.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Might as well post this, too. Zod locks Superman in the Phantom Zone then, in small groups, kryptonians defeat and capture all the DC heroes and create a post-apocalyptic hellhole, basically:
You are as wise as you are beautiful.Anyways, my last couple posts in here. Some no-name Kryptonians physically beat Doomsday to death:
This is eyeballing it about...20 kryptonians in total, or so.
@philo, those are irrelevant
the kryptonians lack the durability. Thor's collosal omnidrectional lightning can and WILL destroy 98% of the kryptonians, and that's being GENEROUS. His lightning is trans tier
Here he summoned lightning that broke Odin universal seal and that was heard in far galaxies by the GOTG
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11127/111276539/6120666-1266134304-57161.jpg
Here he created lightning covering CC Thanos who dwarfed planets
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/11127/111276539/6120667-0540224874-57161.jpg
I can post more if u want
Reading this thread is very funny
You have 2 (Bazy, and Carver) posters constantly trying to downplay a feat/scan posted by people. Whatever is posted, it’s somehow discredited.
Kryptonians are fodder? Philo, DS, and Abhi post sufficient proof of fodder Kryptonians doing things that even high heralds have a hard time doing, but still the trolls reject it.
-Stopping a move that’s going fast? No that’s nothing impressive despite proof that even mid/high Herald having a hard time doing relatively similar feats
-Killng H/P Doomsday? Nope! Not impressive enough! Despite the fact that even DOS DD was walking around beating the **** our of mid/high Herald heroes
-Fodder and some main Kryptonian villains take over the world? Nope! Nothing impressive
-Phantom Zone? What’s that? Another dimension where your powers don’t work? That’s nothing!
Trolls won’t even answer simply questions. How many kryptonian are equal to one Mangog? How many DD’s are equal to one Mangog?
And of course you have people like Rage goes off claiming that Odin can suddenly destroy 100,000’s of kryptonian within one sec because in the spam of 50 years he has done that 4 times. Perhaps, we can start using one off’s for other heroes as well
At some point of reading this thread, you start to realize it’s one side that’s been posting decent feats, while the trolls are screaming (no no no)
Pathetic, even for a silly forum like this.
Originally posted by xJLxKinglol, I can't see rage's posts anymore. For good reason I see.
Reading this thread is very funnyYou have 2 (Bazy, and Carver) posters constantly trying to downplay a feat/scan posted by people. Whatever is posted, it’s somehow discredited.
Kryptonians are fodder? Philo, DS, and Abhi post sufficient proof of fodder Kryptonians doing things that even high heralds have a hard time doing, but still the trolls reject it.
-Stopping a move that’s going fast? No that’s nothing impressive despite proof that even mid/high Herald having a hard time doing relatively similar feats
-Killng H/P Doomsday? Nope! Not impressive enough! Despite the fact that even DOS DD was walking around beating the **** our of mid/high Herald heroes
-Fodder and some main Kryptonian villains take over the world? Nope! Nothing impressive
-Phantom Zone? What’s that? Another dimension where your powers don’t work? That’s nothing!Trolls won’t even answer simply questions. How many kryptonian are equal to one Mangog? How many DD’s are equal to one Mangog?
And of course you have people like Rage goes off claiming that Odin can suddenly destroy 100,000’s of kryptonian within one sec because in the spam of 50 years he has done that 4 times. Perhaps, we can start using one off’s for other heroes as well
At some point of reading this thread, you start to realize it’s one side that’s been posting decent feats, while the trolls are screaming (no no no)
Pathetic, even for a silly forum like this.
Just saw bazy from Earth-R said that Thor's omni-lightning would destroy 98% of kryptonians.
I guess blatant trolling is now allowed on the forum. Oh well, time to send him to the phantom zone.
Originally posted by xJLxKingAnd of course you have people like Rage goes off claiming that Odin can suddenly destroy 100,000’s of kryptonian within one sec because in the spam of 50 years he has done that 4 times. Perhaps, we can start using one off’s for other heroes as well
I know, you're probably frustrated by the random socks in this thread, but if you're going to claim I said something, do me the courtesy of quoting me, or at least actually READING my post.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
In no way is a random Asgardian equivalent to a random Kryptonian, but Asgard has a lot higher ceiling.We could turn this into a "non-PIS" fight, but....than Asgard starts shitting magic, Red Solar Radiation, and Kryptonite. And we COULD use Kryptonian's at their logical high end power level that they SHOULD reside at (but DON'T) but we could do the same to Odin and.....well, what happens if Odin don's the Destroyer Armor, dual wields the Odinsword and Twilight Sword? Cul as the God of Fear (When actually feeding on Fear) wouldn't even need help. This is ASGARD. The source of the most powerful magic in the Marvel Universe. Odin at full power is capable of galactic level power, he could literally change all Solar Radiation in the vicinity to Red with a blink. He's restored an entire race, civilizations etc. and has omniscience (He'll know their weaknesses). What's stopping him from turning every piece of matter in the 200km into Kryptonite? Every random Kryptonian except Superman/Supergirl would almost instantly be rendered useless.
Unless Superman actually does magically shit out the Miracle Machine, the All-Father just walks through the entire race if we consider this a "non-PIS" fight and try to bring it to it's logical conclusion.
But we can play what-ifs all day. Imo, Asgard wins. Odin is too much to overcome. We could use him at much weaker portrayals but we would do the same to Kryptonian's...and relatively speaking, not much has changed because Asgard still has a few weapons that would win this war.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Odin would be one-shotting kill random Kryptonian's like they were hand ninjas. So would the Destroyer.It's how comics work. 100 named Kryptonian's would have a better chance of invading Asgard than 100,000 randoms.
I know this is just a silly forum, but you can read my conversation with DS as many times as you want, to understand what we're discussing. I discussed the hypothetical of what Odin would be capable off in a "non-PIS fight".
The second part, is well...true. We'd hardly have to use Odin at his best to have him tearing apart random Kryptonian's.
I know we all have our biases, but when you have Squalx gawking like a chicken about the MM, signalling out my interpretation of Odin in an untrue and hyperbolic way, when I prefixed my post in the context of a high-end, non-PIS showing, seems a bit...petty? I'm not sure what the word is.
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
^I wish you'd said something relevant and right for once
Hell, you can't even be consistent on what marvel 616 is despite making a ******* thread specifically
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t653618.html
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
the shi'ar empire empire stomps them since they have sky fathers and phoenix force also mkrann crystal, the krees have guys like genis vell.
Even in this thread, just glancing through your post, you've used different version of "Asgard". You've use Classic Odin, Thor; Jane (was never part of classic Asgard), War Thor, Current Loki, Hela (Why her?)
People can't even argue with you because you're using different versions interchangeable despite the fact that even your fellow troll supports disagree..
Then you have ridiculous claims that Thor's ONE LIGHTING can kill 100K Kryptonians. If' you'd like, we can have a BZ on Thor vs 100,000 Kryptonians. If I can, you are banned for 2 weeks.
Hell, the fact is, I actually think Asgard can win but that's something else entirely.
I dont know what JL King is talking about. I havent even participated in this thread except with a couple of posts and what I said was solid. Darksaint, you're amazing with math and good post. I have no rebuttals about the moon ft.
You still didnt dispute my argument with Jane Thor vs random Kryptonians though. What fts do they have?
Originally posted by Philosophía
lol, I can't see rage's posts anymore. For good reason I see.Just saw bazy from Earth-R said that Thor's omni-lightning would destroy 98% of kryptonians.
I guess blatant trolling is now allowed on the forum. Oh well, time to send him to the phantom zone.
Normally, I don't call for bans, but damnnn. At some point, you have to wonder what the threshold is for not getting even a warning for blatantly making idiotic statements
Originally posted by xJLxKing
i wish you'd actually post something that someone other than the 3 trolls can agree with. Instead, you have three trolls Carver, RW, and Quan replying to your post and probably agreeing with you. But at least even Carver and Quan troll on on consistent on certain viewpoints. You're just a cestpool of contradictions.Hell, you can't even be consistent on what marvel 616 is despite making a ******* thread specifically
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t653618.htmlEven in this thread, just glancing through your post, you've used different version of "Asgard". You've use Classic Odin, Thor; Jane (was never part of classic Asgard), War Thor, Current Loki, Hela (Why her?)
People can't even argue with you because you're using different versions interchangeable despite the fact that even your fellow troll supports disagree..
Then you have ridiculous claims that Thor's ONE LIGHTING can kill 100K Kryptonians. If' you'd like, we can have a BZ on Thor vs 100,000 Kryptonians. If I can, you are banned for 2 weeks.
Hell, the fact is, I actually think Asgard can win but that's something else entirely.
for me to BZ you would require me to actually take you serious though..
