New Krypton vs Asgard

Started by Baziemarc12332 pages

Thor's lightning have solar system-galaxy feats, you think fodder kryptonians can SURVIVE that type of damage output from his lightning based on NOTHING actually provided for their durability?

Loki alone have plot manipulation and he's currently bossing around celestials.

They can't, but that's a loaded question imo not meant to have an answer. For example, I find it hard to see Thor dropping solar system level cosmic storms. I think it's only fair if we use the high end version of Asgard to appropriately scale the other side to maintain non-bias, even if material evidence is not readily avaiblae.

You're picking and choosing feats that suit your argument.

You might as well find a insane durability feat for Thor and claiming nothing else can harm him.

I'm not say we using his weakest performance on panel but yo pretend that Thor will constantly do X attack is ridiculous. Again, we might as well start claiming SS has universal durability because he DID IT ONCE in what, 40+ years.

As for fodder Kryptonians, can you tell me what is a fodder Kryptonian? DS posted fodder Kryptonians beating the s*** out of H/P DD. The same guy who destroyed JLA, DS, WR..etc .

I'm not saying ever group of fodder kryptonian woulld do the same thing but lets not pretend 10, 15, or even 20 of them wouldn't kill Jane Thor or Odinson.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
They can't, but that's a loaded question imo not meant to have an answer. For example, I find it hard to see Thor dropping solar system level cosmic storms. I think it's only fair if we use the high end version of Asgard to appropriately scale the other side to maintain non-bias, even if material evidence is not readily avaiblae.

Because' it's a stupid question.

Might as well say how can Odin survive an attack from a Kryptonian when a Kryptonians was shown to lift infinite weight. It would imply that his punches would be infinite.

It's a stupid question

How does beating DD equates to beating the Destroyer who's far more harder to destroy based on his material and the fact Jane punches were ineffective?

kryptonians hasnt fought asgard tech yet

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
How does beating DD equates to beating the Destroyer who's far more harder to destroy based on his material and the fact Jane punches were ineffective?

Since you're using that version of Destroyer, can you explain how Mangog ripped through it? The same Mangog that technically got kill by the Sun.

Don't try to bring up the PF because we know the PF's didn't even view Jane or Thor as a threat

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
kryptonians hasnt fought asgard tech yet

😕 What does this even mean?
I can say the same thing! The asgardians have seen Kryptonian Technology.

Mangog years ago tanked a blast that had the capacity of a sun with no damage. the fact that you dudes keep bringing the sun incident knowing how PIS/contradictory it was shows desperation

http://i.imgur.com/mGn3sDG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YrqCi6s.jpg

Different version!

boy it's the same mangog

16 year old Kryptonian females are WELL above Thor physically. Supergirl's showings in the The New Krypton storyline makes that clear.

She hasn’t done anything impressive in that storyline to even make that case

I'm refferring to the Kryptonians' relative power-levels. Another Kryptonian teen was her peer.

And in War of New Krypton Kara nearly replicated the Two-shot dominance showing of Superman Loeb gave her in his S/B storyline. This time, though, Superman stopped holding back.

Superman actually proven to be stronger than Kara when he got serious and defeated dark Kara but I mean it’s not it’s a feat to beat Superman. Jane could two shot him on her worst day

😂

Originally posted by panthergod
16 year old Kryptonian females are WELL above Thor physically. Supergirl's showings in the The New Krypton storyline makes that clear.
Nah.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol.

Check your maths.
Assuming your 99% is somehow correct...

1% of 100,000 Kryptonians is still 1,000 Kryptonians. You're not just left with those four......

Edit: am also mystified by your timeline.

You have the War Thor there. Fine. Not sure why BRB is there too, though - IIRC he wasn't around when War Thor was.

And IF you want to use THAT era of Asgard....I wouldn't count too much on Loki. Even as the Sorceror Supreme, all he wanted to do when Mangog attacked was run (and got bitchslapped by his mom):

So no, I wouldn't want to depend on him to defend me.

As for Odin? Again, if we take THIS era of Asgard...

Let's just say he's hardly fighting without CIS in play...

Ok, 99.99%. And if we are going by eras, then it'll be Thor, Loki, BRB, Amora the Enchantress, Cul Borson, Destroyer, and Odin for our regular 616 Asgard before Aaron and Jane Thor came about. My original point still stands.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, your stance was that Odin was not galactic level, and he only has one feat (It was arguable before, but apparently not now), and nothing else.

And who said I changed it?

Who are the majority of writers? Stan Lee, Thomas DeFalco, Walter Simonson, Matt Fraction, Kieron Gillen, and Jason Aaron (Yes, even Aaron) have ALL shown Odin performing Galaxy level to Universal level feats at least once in their tenure. Those are easily the most iconic Thor writers of all time aside from Roy Thomas and JMS (Who never wrote Odin aside from him fighting Surtur for all Eternity in Valhalla).

We'll see, won't we? Why are you so afraid?

FIVE posts later, and your stance is STILL Changing. Now you're not counting power appearances, but the number of books a writer has penned?

Odin has 1130 issues appearances as of comicvine:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/odin/4005-3507/

You don't have to read all of those. I will do that.

You just have to post your high showings for Odin and step aside.

More than half of those, he almost never does anything except talk or serve as exposition. Let's say out of the relevant 600 appearances, he only gets into fights for about, maybe 150 of those (On the safe side), and he has maybe 10 galactic or higher level feats directly/indirectly. On the conservative end, Odin has like 6% out of actual fights where he demonstrates actual Galactic level fights.

It's per writer, not per appearance.

You want to know how many times Superman would display planetary or higher power based on the number of fights? I'm guessing between 1% and 0.1%? Regardless, whatever stance you take, if you want to start analyzing issue counts, your logic quickly backfires on your stance in almost every thread.

Every writer portrays Superman as the top of the food chain. Superman isn't so impressive because he does this planetary feat or that one, it's because he is so consistent.

You and the rest of the Thorbags are so fixed on space cheese like galaxies that these are the only criteria you will discuss.

So be it.

Regardless, it's not my job to convince you that you're an outstanding dumb*ss. We can present our cases to an unbiased panel of 3 judges. You can argue writer appearances or whatever idiocy you want, I will simply present a relevant and concise argument, and make a note of whatever your argument you make.

Sure, don't cry after I rip your Odin fantasies to pieces.